Arama They Didn't

11:54 am - 12/18/2011

Lee urges compensation for sex slaves; Noda says issue is settled

South Korean President Lee Myung-Bak urged Japan Sunday to have the “courage” to compensate ageing wartime sex slaves before it is too late to let the two nations move forward.

Lee told Prime Minister Yoshihiko Noda in Japan’s ancient capital of Kyoto that the issue had prevented their countries from becoming “true partners” in the years since World War II.

Japan, which insists the issue was legally settled four decades ago, promised only that it would “think carefully” from a humanitarian standpoint, but stopped well short of offering a fresh apology, officials said.

“South Korea and Japan should become real partners for peace and stability in this region,” the visiting South Korean president told his opposite number.

“And for that to happen, we need to have the courage to resolve as a priority the issue of military comfort women, which has been a stumbling block between our countries,” Lee said.

Comfort women, a euphemism used to describe women forced into sexual slavery by Japanese troops before and during World War II, came to widespread notice in the early 1990s when ageing victims went public.

A dwindling band of women have since vociferously demanded compensation and an apology from Japan, which mounted a brutal occupation of the Korean peninsula between 1910 and 1945.

Last week supporters held their 1,000th weekly protest at Tokyo’s embassy in Seoul, unveiling a statue of a young woman in traditional Korean dress who they said represented the thousands of women forced to work in Japan’s military brothels.

Tokyo has repeatedly apologized for occupation-era crimes but has consistently rejected South Korea’s proposal for specific talks on the comfort women, insisting all issues were settled in a 1965 accord normalizing relations between the two countries, which also included a financial settlement.

Japan maintains that it was up to the then military government in Seoul to disburse compensation appropriately.

Speaking after the meeting, Noda said he had asked Lee to help ensure the removal of the statue outside the Japanese mission, but stressed that Tokyo’s stance on the issue was unchanged.

“I told him that our nation’s position is as he is already aware,” he told reporters.

Lee had long shied away from a public discussion of the subject, which has rumbled in the background of relations for a number of years.

However, the issue came to the fore in August when a South Korean court ruled that it was unconstitutional for the government not to negotiate with Tokyo over the women’s individual rights to seek compensation from Japan.

In their meeting, Lee attempted to persuade Japan to go beyond the 1965 agreement.

“The comfort women issue can be solved immediately if the Japanese government looks at things at a different perspective,” Lee told Noda, according to Seoul’s presidential spokesman.

“This is a matter of national sentiment and emotion rather than laws,” Lee said, urging Noda to make a “political” decision based on “warm heart”, rather than technical judgement.

“If there is no sincere measure, there will be second or third monuments like this whenever each old lady passes away,” Lee said, referring to the statue.

After arriving in Japan Saturday, Lee told a gathering of ethnic Koreans in Osaka that Tokyo must resolve the issue for the sake of future bilateral ties, or risk the “burden” remaining forever.

He said that the issue was becoming more urgent as the number of women known to have been enslaved diminished with elderly survivors dying off.

“Resolving this issue while they are alive will be of big help for the two countries to move forward toward the future,” he said.



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I wouldn't remove those statues.
kame_94 18th-Dec-2011 10:35 pm (UTC)
Whenever I asked how their apologize wasn't sincere, this was the answer you gave me:
"The apologies weren't sincere, they refuse to put the information about the comfort women in the history textbooks.
Implying that it wasn't sincere, since they refused to put it in textbooks. I wanted a "how", and you gave me that it wasn't sincere and then the fact that they didn't put it in textbooks.. which makes that your "how" that I was asking for.

Is your head so surprised by the fact that someone from a conquered country got raped during a war that you can't acknowledge anything other than giving that person everything they want for the rest of their life?? You kidding, right? Women get raped all over during war. Most of the time they don't even get an apology or compensation, but instead spit on. Wow.. great job sticking up for those women, huh?
liime_arix 18th-Dec-2011 11:21 pm (UTC)
Sorry, those were two separate comments.

Breaking it down.

The Korean women just wanted to be compensated, be it monetary or not.

They also want an apology, a real apology.

These women actually went after what they wanted.

Not everyone who is a victim wants to do that, not every victim has to do that.

As a victim, it is your choice.

Some victims choose to fight for what they want (in this case in a form of compensation and apology).

Some victims choose not to.

It is the victim's incentive.

Should victims of such atrocities be spat on?

No they shouldn't.

Do I personally think they should be compensated in some form?

Yes I do.

What the hell is your problem?
kame_94 18th-Dec-2011 11:36 pm (UTC)
I asked how, the only thing you came up with was that "they refuse to put it in the textbooks". So, if that's now how it was insincere.. what is?
They have had multiple apologies from multiple Prime Minister. What more can they expect? Most victims don't even get that.
They live in the country of Korea, where their representative is their government who handles foreign affairs. That same foreign affairs unit deals with the other country on how much compensation is needed. Then, they decide how it is distributed throughout the citizens/victims.

Some victims choose to fight for what they want (in this case in a form of compensation and apology).
They have received multiply apologies from multiple PM's & their own government is the one who has yet to pay them the compensation from Japan. So it's not their problem.

Do I personally think they should be compensated in some form?

Yes I do.

Same here, but they already got it. So, it's time to stop beating a dead horse and move on.
kame_94 18th-Dec-2011 11:54 pm (UTC)
Sorry, I should of stated that properly. I wasn't meaning move on from their protest without any compensation. Or that rape victims just need to get over it. I was meaning move on from protesting the Japanese embassy to protesting their own government for not giving them the compensation paid by Japan. It's not the Japanese embassy's fault Korean government handled their money the way they did.
icehism 19th-Dec-2011 12:47 am (UTC)
Let's say that japan did pay korea and offered a sincere apology right now.

And that these rape victims were alive..

So what do they do after the pay and the apology if they're not suppose to move on?

Just something to think about.
Apologies are nice and i do agree that japan should just pay and apologize.

But what do the rape victims do after they get paid? demand more money and just say that the apology is half-assed like every other time? or move on?
you do know these women can just keep going on that the apology is half-assed over and over again. Japan could pay them billions in USD and they COULD still call it half-assed.

oh the corruption in the world :(
icehism 19th-Dec-2011 01:01 am (UTC)
I'm not telling them to move on.
I'm saying.
What do they do after their compensation and apology if they're not suppose to move on?


When i said corruption, i was talking about both, japan not paying+apologizing and women possibly declaring all of japan's apologies to be half-assed on purpose just for their own benefit (Whether monetary or not)
icehism 19th-Dec-2011 01:17 am (UTC)
Lol. i thought you were a good talker.

Why can't you answer it hun?

There are bad people in this world and there always will be and they exist everywhere.

You say stop but you clearly do not understand what i'm trying to say AT ALL.
icehism 19th-Dec-2011 01:49 am (UTC)
"i don't like how you're trying to make RAPE VICTIMS out to be the bad people"
Stop putting words in my mouth, i'm not. I simply stated that bad people exist everywhere and come in ALL forms. Heck, even priests can be bad people.

"no amount of money will ever make up for the horrific thing they went through. so if they keep asking for money? idc. they deserve every single dime and more."

I agree with your first statement but your second.... really?
It's nice to know a minority matters more than the general populace of of a country. Are you unaware of the fact that money keeps this world going?
czarny 20th-Dec-2011 10:41 pm (UTC)
Oh my god just delete your account already.
liime_arix 18th-Dec-2011 11:50 pm (UTC)
I'm done, I'm just fucking done. You really need to stop with that disgusting mentality.

No one wants a shitty apology, js. You need to stop telling these women to move on. What the hell is wrong with you, god fucking damn it.
kame_94 18th-Dec-2011 11:56 pm (UTC)
Read above. -_-

You even said on the other post that they got "no apology or compensation". But, the thing is, Japan paid it's dues. It in Korea's hands to handle the finances of the subject.

Multiple Prime Ministers apologized. What made each and every one of their apologizes shitty?? You have yet to tell me that or give me a link where they complained about the apology they received?
liime_arix 19th-Dec-2011 12:04 am (UTC)
Multiple Prime Ministers apologized.

Please look at the links I gave you.
czarny 20th-Dec-2011 10:42 pm (UTC)
Crap trolling tbh, delete this sock puppet account pls, it's not funny.
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