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9:32 pm - 03/07/2012

Japanese Netizens react to ifuaskedmeto shedding light on racism in Hallyu



A massive debate has been sparked with netizens from around the globe revealing racism against black people rooted in the influential and invasive Korean Wave.

The online entertainment community, 'Oh No They Didn't' (ONTD) featured a post on the 29th of February entitled 'K-Pop or KKK-Pop?' which made anti-black discrimination accusations about Korean pop music. Black netizen, 'IFUASKEDMETO,' (t/n: the Korean sources called her a black netizen not me!) created the post and included photos and screen captures of artists like Big Bang and Girls' Generation caricaturing black people. The photos and videos from Korean shows like 'Invincible Youth' featured Hallyu stars mocking black people and wearing makeup to impersonate blacks (t/n: SNSD's Yuri, Brian Joo, etc). It also pointed out a singer (t/n: Taeyang) using the racial slur, 'nigga,' on his Cyworld minihompy, as well as a 4-member female group whose main gimmick was dressing up like black people.

The community, which has a membership of 100,000 people, saw the post amass approximately 2,000 comments, exploding in a huge controversy. Most comments included things like, "Seeing anti-black racism and prejudice like this makes me so shocked and sick to my stomach," among other negative things, and reactions to the article spread around Twitter and other social networking sites rapidly.



This issue was brought about due to the spreading of Korean TV shows from the domestic market onto YouTube and other video websites, causing them to be spread throughout the world. Fans of K-Pop artists put up the videos of their favorite stars and the videos are then spread throughout SNS sites on the Internet. However, stars and staffs of these programs don't realize their ignorance on racial matters and so this type of comedy, which was meant only for Korean audiences, spreads too.

Recently MBC’s ‘Quiz that Changes the World‘ has left international netizens outraged and furious. During the episode, comedians Lee Kyung Shil and Kim Ji Sun parodied Michol by wearing similar costumes and both covered in black makeup. Unfortunately, overseas fans did not find the parody to be entertaining and furiously commented saying that it is a “racial discrimination.” MBC said, "This is something that occurred because we did not think carefully at the time about the fact that many international viewers also have gained a high interest in the show with the spread of the Hallyu wave."

 The article sent Korean netizens into a frenzy, as bloggers across the country took to their computers to voice their opinions, mostly supporting ifuaskedmeto:

"If anyone had doubts about 'ifuaskedmeto,' just look at the Jenny Hyun controversy. That is proof. The conclusion? The atmosphere around K-Pop is showing it really is 'KKK-Pop.'"
"This might turn the world against the Korean wave. I'm not sure [...] giving these kinds of excuses and attitudes in K-Pop must not go global."

The blogs and articles that have been splashed across the front pages of Korean news sites about ifuaskedmeto have been full of confusion, controversy and fear as the Korean secret of racism has finally leaked.

The post sent shockwaves across Asia as well, as ifuaskedme to's article was re-posted on message boards and blogs all over the continent. Some Japanese netizens reacted with disgust:

"Jenny Hyun, the composer for Girls' Generation said on her Twitter that black people are disgusting idiots. This behavior is all over the Korean Wave. Sometimes people have called K-Pop 'Krap-Pop' but this time it's 'KKK-Pop.' The person who came up with that did well."

"KKK = Kimchi Kusai Kankoku (t/n: Kimchi kusai means smells like kimchi, Kankoku means Korea)."

"They think 'I want to sing and be cool like black people' yet they have these narrow-minded views of the world. It's like they think foreigners don't exist."




Source: nate, nate, weinweipo, livedoor, logsoku [the article is basically all of these articles/comments compiled]
Translation: devilsatin
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ohprecioustime 8th-Mar-2012 02:49 am (UTC)
I really don't get this article
but Japan shouldn't criticized..they ain't innocent
lovelycandygirl 8th-Mar-2012 02:50 am (UTC)
Ohh ONTD gets crazy over everything.
lenra 8th-Mar-2012 04:37 am (UTC)
if it's about racism they should, ontd it's not the problem here.

Edited at 2012-03-08 04:38 am (UTC)
abner_rainbow 8th-Mar-2012 03:00 am (UTC)
oh

cool that ontd made the news in those countries
___teckie 8th-Mar-2012 03:02 am (UTC)
For those curious on the ONTD article: http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/66971666.html
ohprecioustime 8th-Mar-2012 03:09 am (UTC)
ummmm OP you can't freeze threads here,this isn't omona
devilsatin 8th-Mar-2012 03:13 am (UTC)
Sorry it's not me! Maybe u should contact the mods if you have an issue with them freezing your threads :)
asaphira_sachi 8th-Mar-2012 03:11 am (UTC)
As much as I'd like to write a shock/omg comment on the hallyu part, for some reason I'm actually more shocked ONTD has been cited on a news article (blog post?).
mikilove13 9th-Mar-2012 02:38 am (UTC)
ONTD has been cited and mentioned in news articles in the US. The only part of this that's new is ONTD being mentioned in news outside of the US.
kachuusha 8th-Mar-2012 03:12 am (UTC)
racism is everywhere, so i'm not surprised. i just hope korea (and japan) backs off on the racism, especially since korea is getting more of a following.

Edited at 2012-03-08 03:13 am (UTC)
antifools 9th-Mar-2012 02:16 pm (UTC)
This is the reason why black Americans hated Koreans so much. See what happens in South Central LA. Blacks hated those Koreans as much as Koreans hate them. During the LA riots they burned every Korean shop they can find. Good thing the Japanese aren't like that and enjoys much admiration among many Americans.
uledy 8th-Mar-2012 03:18 am (UTC)
Lord, not here too. I've been spending the past couple months on omonatheydidnt dealing with this bullshit.

It's very curious that these particular Japanese netizens get it. Either that or they're really good regurgitaters.

And what's up with that Japanese netizen understanding the "KKK" play on words, half my students (children, teenagers, and adults alike) didn't even know who MLK was.

These Japanese netizens are prime examples of why the "lack of exposure" apologist statements are invalid.
benihime99 8th-Mar-2012 10:39 am (UTC)
"half my students (children, teenagers, and adults alike) didn't even know who MLK was."

You're joking right?
retahdedtim 8th-Mar-2012 03:19 am (UTC)
"KKK = Kimchi Kusai Kankoku (t/n: Kimchi kusai means smells like kimchi, Kankoku means Korea)."

uh no. KKK-pop is not a play on words involving Kimchi. Someone should do them the favoring of explaining the KKK.

And I'm having a hard time taking Japanese people's criticisms of Koreans doing blackface seriously.

Hopefully these people who are criticizing Korean entertainers doing blackface are also criticizing Japanese entertainers that have done blackface (but I doubt it).
raviolikenshin 8th-Mar-2012 05:56 am (UTC)
It is exactly what the person meant when they wrote that down. They explained it in the comment. People in the 2ch thread had to reply to some people explaining what KKK really stands for.
rilakkuuu 8th-Mar-2012 03:19 am (UTC)
Can't wait for the "Well *insert place here* is racist to *insert place here* so they shouldn't be talking" and the "They probably don't mean it" comments. This is going to be great.

Also.. Ontd in an article? Life is great.
sergel02 8th-Mar-2012 03:19 am (UTC)
"Secret"
Not really a secret tbh. Though what a show does is different than what singers do. Korea is still pretty monolithic without many other races in it. Japan used to be like that too. Things will change in time, so as long as people make it change.

Though I don't get how Jenny Hyun represents kpop, especially since she wrote like 2 songs and wasn't known until her little rant.

Still, not really an excuse but an explanation. Japan isn't all that innocent either tho, especially towards other Asians, Ryukyuans, etc. Tho again, doesn't mean its okay.

I have a hard time taking ONTD seriously though.

Edited at 2012-03-08 03:20 am (UTC)
sergel02 8th-Mar-2012 03:26 am (UTC)
Can kpop/jpop just calm down for a day?

This so much. I dunno get what all the arguing, especially among international fans is about. For the past month its been one scandal or issue after another. Its all music a the end, so i don't get all the butthurt. Jpopasia is like the only calm place I can go to, and there everything is just bunched up together.
peachie_ego Get it ifuaskedmeto!8th-Mar-2012 03:22 am (UTC)
Lmao the ONTD post was hilarious because you know it was a troll bait post made by a troll and not many people really cared about the actual topic. The fact that his trolling was acknowledge as the forefront of 'cultural sensitivity' is very funny yet sad.

Japanese netizens shouldn't really talk because they are just clamping onto anything that makes K-pop look bad without knowing that it makes them look bad and full of contradiction. They both need to do better...hell, PEOPLE need to do better period.
brucelynn Re: Get it ifuaskedmeto!8th-Mar-2012 08:15 am (UTC)
All of the awards for this comment
falsie slightly ot8th-Mar-2012 03:24 am (UTC)
heres an article posted on omona. related i guess. K-pop stars asked to be cautious on racial prejudice.
the article is all empty words but at least they tried. i guess that's some kind of start

Edited at 2012-03-08 03:30 am (UTC)
kuumin 8th-Mar-2012 03:31 am (UTC)
WOW ifuaskedmeto UR FAMOUS !!!!!!!!
cruel_idol 8th-Mar-2012 03:32 am (UTC)
"Jenny Hyun, the composer for Girls' Generation said on her Twitter that black people are disgusting idiots."

Well, I know who I won't be inviting over for dinner. Such nerve.

I live with my friend who is also black, and two Koreans who are dating each other. We get along just fine, though my roommate tends to make things awkward by calling one of them his "little sister", despite the fact that she and I are the oldest in the house at 25, on account of her figure. That and assuming that "all Asian people are alike" and thinking that they have seen every martial arts movie he has seen. I have spoke to him about how bad that is and he did stop. Other than that, we get along. We share what music we like with each other and bond over usual stuff.

This isn't the time to throw stones though, especially when others are known for doing it as well.
I can't believe some people do not know where KKK comes from, though I wouldn't want them to experience what I have experienced to learn it.

Edited at 2012-03-08 03:43 am (UTC)
icehism 8th-Mar-2012 03:45 am (UTC)
lmao, i guess international fans have no idea what a target audience is.

Expecting this post to blow up in 3..2..1..
abusedpancake 8th-Mar-2012 03:49 am (UTC)
"It's like they think foreigners don't exist."

priceless, made my day lol..

*it also explains the behavior many people in this European country act towards me the way they do ¬_¬
cheeky_duck 8th-Mar-2012 04:58 am (UTC)
"it also explains the behavior many people in this European country act towards me the way they do ¬_¬"

???? Don't understand
eishastan 8th-Mar-2012 03:53 am (UTC)
Surprised that it made news in Japan tbh, but what are they talking about when Japanese celebs have done blackface too, i mean they even had "musical" groups doing blackface and releasing singles, even idols have been dressed in ponchos, sombreros and moustaches.

This type of stereotype reproduction that only enforces a negative view of a race or culture need to stop, it doesn't matter if it was done by Koreans or Japanese or anyone else for that matter (even though i know that for some people in arama and their double standards it will matter if it was made by koreans or japanese)
rilakkuuu 8th-Mar-2012 04:04 am (UTC)
This type of stereotype reproduction that only enforces a negative view of a race or culture need to stop, it doesn't matter if it was done by Koreans or Japanese or anyone else for that matter

I love you so much.
akbitches 8th-Mar-2012 03:57 am (UTC)
wake up call for korea and japan
thewarpedmelody 8th-Mar-2012 04:04 am (UTC)
Lol this whole thing reminds me of that incident where Tomochin types on her facebook about AKB song "Beginner" and she mis-typed it as "Benigger". I'm pretty sure its an accidental mistake.

Well just saying... :D
uledy 8th-Mar-2012 04:07 am (UTC)
-_-;
go_chan2011 This is fucked up in so many ways~8th-Mar-2012 04:05 am (UTC)




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God I´m so tired of hate, in ALL LEVELS~



 







thewarpedmelody Re: This is fucked up in so many ways~8th-Mar-2012 04:09 am (UTC)
Your comment looks like a 9gag post haha
bittersweet_bun 8th-Mar-2012 04:18 am (UTC)
I understand why everyone here is saying "Japan has no right to criticize" because Japan is obviously in no way innocent when it comes to blackface. But by this logic, anyone who lives in America shouldn't be allowed to criticize it either since America started and spread blackface worldwide. But Americans should speak out against it. See. Like America's case, just because blackface is done in Japan doesn't mean that no Japanese person should be allowed to speak out against it. I think everyone should criticize it, no matter where they're from.
cruel_idol 8th-Mar-2012 04:26 am (UTC)
This is what I was saying in terms of people throwing stones! MTE!
cheeky_duck 8th-Mar-2012 04:53 am (UTC)
That is seriously disgusting.
However, I see no difference between Korean and Japanese "racist" behaviour. I vividly remember an episode of the very popular drama Hanazakari no kimitachi (1rst season) that was centered on a game of football. As their opponent were obviously going to win because they had "a black guy", three of the characters pulled on black faces AND kept doing silly and girly imitations of Mickael Jackson. I was expected reaction at that time, and was really surprised of the lack of controversy it caused.
ofs1992 8th-Mar-2012 05:40 am (UTC)
MBC said, "This is something that occurred because we did not think carefully at the time about the fact that many international viewers also have gained a high interest in the show with the spread of the Hallyu wave."

?? korean tv people think it's ok to air these things because they thought the videos will be solely contained in korea?? they're spreading racism subconsciously or who knows maybe it's really deliberate.
kazuya_raba 8th-Mar-2012 05:52 am (UTC)
I found this line funny too. So if they had known that someone else was going to be watching they wouldn't have included it, because they know it's wrong. Silly people do silly things.
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