Arama They Didn't

10:23 pm - 04/26/2012

it's one of those posts again...



Before Hallyu, or the Korean Wave, washed over Singapore, there was Japanese mania.

It hit Singapore hard in the 1980s and 1990s, first with singers and actors such as Seiko Matsuda and Momoe Yamaguchi, followed by the likes of SMAP, X-Japan, Speed and Namie Amuro. Their posters and laminated photos sold briskly at retail outlets catering to idol-loving hormonal teens and young adults.



Oshin, about the travail and triumphs of a Japanese woman from childhood through motherhood, was among the first huge Japanese drama successes in Singapore when it aired here in the 1980s, long before Korean matinee idol Bae Yong Joon was a twinkle in the eyes of his housewife fans here. Subsequently, Japanese drama serials such as Beach Boys (1997) and GTO: Great Teacher Onizuka (1999) fired up the small screen, even if it was in a language most Singaporeans could not understand.

These days, from Girls' Generation to Lee Min Ho and Kim Hyun Joong, it is almost all about Korean pop culture with Singaporeans - and it has taken only a decade for K-pop to not only erase Japanese pop culture's 20-year headstart, but surpass it considerably.

What happened?

Part of the answer lies in the example of Japanese rock band L'Arc-En-Ciel holding their first-ever concert in Singapore on Saturday only after 20 years and selling 40 million records.

The quartet - among Japan's biggest bands - told Life! they never came to Singapore before simply because they had no idea they had a following here. And it is quite a sizeable following too - a few categories of tickets to the concert at the Singapore Indoor Stadium are already sold out.

Although local supporters say there is no official fan club established here, some of them are passionate enough about L'Arc-En-Ciel that they have flown all over the world to watch them perform at concerts.

According to Warner Music marketing director James Kang, the fact that J-pop stars have always been more 'distant' and insular compared to K-pop stars played a part in the Korean takeover.

He says even at the height of their popularity, girl group Speed, boyband SMAP, pop queen Namie Amuro, visual rock group Glay and current hot group Arashi gave Singapore shores a miss - so no fan meets, no concerts, no showcases.

Japanese rock music fan Fabian Soh, 22, has also noticed that big-name Japanese singers and groups do not tour here as often as as their Korean counterparts - a probable reason why they are not as popular.

The library office administrator says: "You can definitely find people in Singapore who are crazy about J-pop now, but it's not easy as finding people who are very vocal about K-pop."

A fan of underground J-rock bands such as Tokyo Pinsalocks and Sakanaction, Soh says he would probably have to travel to Japan if he ever wanted to see them live because there is "pretty much no chance of them ever coming here".

In contrast, K-pop stars are less shy about stepping out of their country. To be frank, they are all too eager to promote themselves. Sometimes, it seems they are willing to go anywhere in the world for even the opening of an envelope, as long as it is an opportunity for more publicity and the price is right.

Indeed, K-pop acts tour Singapore more often than the Japanese, with popular groups such as Girls' Generation, FTIsland and Beast having recently performed here.

Not enough material for a full-length concert? No worry, there is always this thing called a ticketed fan meet. Last December, K-pop boyband TVXQ were in town for a two-hour fan party at the Singapore Indoor Stadium, where they sang a few songs, autographed merchandise and took photos with fans.

Later next month, Korean idol Kim Hyun Joon, who played the princely Yoon Ji Hoo in the idol drama Boys Over Flowers (2009), will also be in town for a fan meet at the Indoor Stadium.

More recently, the Mnet Asian Music Awards, one of the biggest star-studded annual K-pop awards events, was held here last November. It is still the clearest sign that the K-pop market has a strong foothold in Singapore.

Assistant professor Liew Kai Khiun of Nanyang Technological University, whose research areas include television dramas and popular music in Southeast Asia, partly attributes the Hallyu revolution to the Korean government's push to promote all things Korean abroad.

He says: "Unlike their Japanese counterparts, the Korean government and the media industry invest significantly in promoting the K-wave in the world as part of the efforts in strengthening the republic's soft power."

In Singapore, the Korean government has previously organised and co-funded Korean pop concerts, and has supported the Korean Film Festival, which has been held here annually for the last five years.

In 2006, a website was even set up by the Korea Tourism Organisation which combined cast details of popular Korean dramas with information about filming locations to attract visitors.

Another sign that Japanese pop culture has loosened its hold on the region: Boys Over Flowers is a popular Japanese manga series that started in 1992 which got overshadowed in East Asia, first by the Taiwanese TV adaptation of it in 2001 (Meteor Garden), and in 2009 by the Korean TV series also called Boys Over Flowers.

Sandwiched between these two versions was the Japanese TV series which never achieved the same level of interest in Singapore.

Industry veterans say there is another reason why the Korean Wave eclipsed the Japanese mania in the early to mid-2000s: the high cost of bringing Japanese content into Singapore.

When Man Shu Sum was the executive director of the Taiwan office of Television Corporation of Singapore (now MediaCorp), he brought in Korean dramas for local television in the late 1990s because they were a cheaper alternative to titles from Japan.

According to him, Korean drama serials back then cost around US$800 an episode, compared to up to $15,000 an episode for a Japanese drama.

"We decided to acquire Korean drama, which looked very primitive in production value but the faces were refreshing and the story lines were quite engaging," he says.

It worked. Singaporeans became hooked on K-drama. Popular shows would easily attract a viewership of more than 200,000, notes Man, who is now managing director of Raintree Pictures. Some of the memorable Korean dramas that emerged from that time include the love story Winter Sonata (2002), which starred Korean television heart-throb Bae, and the weepie TV series Autumn In My Heart (2001).

Currently, at least 24 Korean dramas are airing weekly in Singapore on several cable TV channels such as VV Drama, KBS World, ONE, E City and tvN.

Liew says of the appeal of Korean dramas to Singaporeans: "With the melodramatic family-friendly scripts in both historical and contemporary soap operas, K-dramas seem to be more universally appealing to local audiences. J-dramas, on the other hand, are more realistic of the portrayal of small family households, and in recent years, seemed to place less emphasis on historical dramas that regional audiences enjoy watching."

Marketing communications staff Leow Si Wan, 30, says: "Japanese dramas are too subtle in the way emotions are expressed and the plot development can be slow. K-drama is more dramatic and allows you to immerse yourself in a make-believe world.

"Also, for the series Boys Over Flowers, the Korean version of the four guys is also definitely better looking than the cast in the Japanese version."

Even in music, Korean material seems more attractive, says Warner's Kang.

He says Japanese content 'was getting stagnant' while K-pop 'was starting to evolve with a fresher young pop sound'.

"Their music videos started to be striking and creative, and the stars are more exciting in image and music."

Indeed, the Korean stars do not just perform watered-down versions of their concerts back home. When Girls' Generation and Super Junior staged their concerts here at the Indoor Stadium, they were grand, lengthy affairs with elaborate stage designs - even if the bigger stages meant selling fewer tickets.

Even J-pop fans are converts.

Kang adds: "Unfortunately, J-pop has been slow in its growth to produce fresh sounds and superstar idols. Ever since the peak popularity of Ayumi Hamasaki and Utada Hikaru in the early 2000s, we have not seen bigger stars with 'idol influence' emerge from the land of the rising sun."

Even J-pop fans have become K-pop converts. Operations associate William Neo, 30, a J-pop fan since his teens, really got into Korean girl groups After School and T-ara last October.

He says: "Their music is nice, performances are very good and all the girls are quite pretty - the whole packaging is good.

"I used to listen to Namie Amuro, Ayumi Hamasaki, but then I lost track of them. In Singapore, they never promote their albums and you seldom hear about them on the Internet unless you really go and search for their songs."

Jason Ng, 31, arelationship manager in an investment bank, says he prefers the idols from Korea to Japan in recent years because of the 'difference in quality', which he attributes to more money and time being spent on grooming Korean idols.

He thinks that a Japanese girl would be able to debut in a girl group such as AKB48 almost immediately "if she met the basic criteria of age and looks".

"But the girls in Girls' Generation, I believe, spent about five years training their vocals and dancing after they had placed highly in a talent competition."

But die-hard J-pop fans such as National University of Singapore law student Alan Koh, 22, is optimistic that J-mania will survive the test of time.

He says: "The interest in K-pop is just a passing phase. I think K-pop will always have its devotees, and the J-pop fan base has relatively lost its strength, but it's okay when everyone's not fighting with you for tickets to a J-pop concert."



Source: AsiaNewsNet
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i know arama loves this kind of posts. or i might be wrong (lol)
anyway.. No words for now, can describe how ........Annoyed I am right now. And sorry first time posting here... feel free to edit the tags, mods. (._.)

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katzsong 26th-Apr-2012 04:31 pm (UTC)
but it's okay when everyone's not fighting with you for tickets to a J-pop concert."

LOL this guy should witness my online "fight" to get the latest Arashi BW DVD LE :P

But yeah, nothing really new. I will always be loyal to Jpop or J-music in general, though I still listened to Kpop or K-music once in awhile, when they have some interesting material to offer. And that will be my own preferences, regardless of what's topping the chart whatsoever.


shunluv 26th-Apr-2012 04:50 pm (UTC)
LOL this guy should witness my online "fight" to get the latest Arashi BW DVD LE :P

THIS LOL...
he should see how crazy fight for their concert ticket *_*
haruchaan 26th-Apr-2012 04:33 pm (UTC)
/yawn

That's all, Straits Times? Boring.
2worldsend 26th-Apr-2012 05:49 pm (UTC)
I read somewhere that it was front page on today's ST Life. Didn't see it because I don't read their crappy news anymore.
dyan1219 26th-Apr-2012 04:34 pm (UTC)
This discussion will never end. Frankly I'd be surprised if this post reaches a hundred comments.
aibada 26th-Apr-2012 04:35 pm (UTC)
so 2010
kachuusha 26th-Apr-2012 04:36 pm (UTC)
same old same old. kpop will fade away once people get sick of it, jpop will come back as more popular.
quietspeaker2 27th-Apr-2012 02:16 am (UTC)
LIKE, I hope so :)
perseshone :rolls eyes:26th-Apr-2012 04:37 pm (UTC)
"but it's okay when everyone's not fighting with you for tickets to a J-pop concert" -- a way to look at the brighter side of things! dare i ask who's concert DVD keep getting restocked at YesAsia, CDJapan, Amazon etc...etc..? Yes, that same band who suddenly scheduled a concert in Seoul when thousands of Korean fans greeted them at the airport.. :P

Edited at 2012-04-26 04:43 pm (UTC)
ansuhzol_117 Re: :rolls eyes:26th-Apr-2012 05:02 pm (UTC)
even without the promotion, we still have to struggle to get hold of one DVD LE.i cant imagine if they start to promote like HELL :p
ayaryo 26th-Apr-2012 04:40 pm (UTC)
Malaysia is pretty much the same.
You can find Kpop fans all over the place; and luckily they have shops selling fake and original merchandise.(Well, the same shop sells Jpop stuffs as well, but raaarely and mostly fake)

For us Jpop fans, we'll have to pre-order the merchandise straight from Japan.
We can't attend HIKKY/KAT-TUN/MOMUSU/AKB48/Ayu/EXILE 's concert in K.L like Kpop fans attend SuJu concert every year.

We have local TV stations airing Korean drama everyday while Japanese drama is only on Sunday(and I don't know if they're still showing). Then on pay tv we have two to three channels straight from Korea while we only have the old NHK that does not even air Shounen Club to stan over Japan.

Well, ignore me.

I'm just proud that our Jpop idols still manage to get new fans every day, even though fans had to depend on the internet for their awesome release.
iqachipmunk 26th-Apr-2012 04:48 pm (UTC)
I'm just proud that our Jpop idols still manage to get new fans every day, even though fans had to depend on the internet for their awesome release.

THIS SFM!
trifarashi 26th-Apr-2012 04:41 pm (UTC)
Yeah, right...try looking at jpn fans..how much they willing sacrifice n save their money to buy the single r dvd cuz it is impposible to but it in our own country...we need to battle with every second so, we able to place our preorder at yeasia n etc...kpop is easy to obtain n no harm..i'm listening both of it..it just the way we fan over these two genre are kinda different.
sugiex 26th-Apr-2012 04:42 pm (UTC)
According to him, Korean drama serials back then cost around US$800 an episode, compared to up to $15,000 an episode for a Japanese drama.

Really? And to think Mediacorp only shows jdramas at midnight time slots.

nudrive 26th-Apr-2012 04:43 pm (UTC)
He thinks that a Japanese girl would be able to debut in a girl group such as AKB48 almost immediately "if she met the basic criteria of age and looks".

I hate how people just brush off how hard AKB have worked to get to where they are. They all have auditions as well. And it's not like they were produced by a well established company. Ok so maybe they didn't have 5 years of training pre-debut but they have had to work really hard since then...

But generalising Japanese girls groups likes that really annoys me; no just no. Let's take Happiness/ Flower for example, they got in after participating in talent competitions and they didn't debut right off the bat, they had loads of training and are more than just cute girls who are the right age -_____-"

But anyway loads of work goes into debuting both Japanese and Korean groups and it's hard to say that these guys have more talent because they've apparently worked harder blahblahblah.
sheix0 26th-Apr-2012 04:50 pm (UTC)
Most idol groups like AKB48 was suppose to be focus on their improvement and progress rather than the actual finished product like kpop idols so there's no point to compare anyway. It's not like AKB48 was trying to be perfect idols in the first place.
And since AKB is basically survival of the fittest, I think people should give props to the girls tbh. Just cuz you can join the group doesn't mean you'll be able to stand out from 1240891034 something girls.

Agree about the FLOWER, Happiness part. It suck that people generalize but I think they just grabbed AKB48 name because they're popular instead of considering all the other groups :\
helenmaldon 26th-Apr-2012 04:44 pm (UTC)
Lol at "opening of an envelope." But interesting article. Also made me need to re-watch GTO...and Boys Over Flowers...xD
loverboy 26th-Apr-2012 04:44 pm (UTC)
ngl I didn't read all of it.

But Korea is smarter about promoting and marketing to overseas audiences than Japan is. Japan shot themselves in the foot. If they were smart about it around a decade ago when all things Japan were super cool, they could have been a rival to the Korean wave. But they're not.
katzsong 26th-Apr-2012 04:53 pm (UTC)
Well, Japan just doesn't feel that they need to cater to foreign fans, as much as Kpop. I don't really blame them. But with economic changes right now, I hope they re-consider. Marketing wise.
mrjl_writer 26th-Apr-2012 04:49 pm (UTC)
Okay I'm obviously new to this judging by the comments lol Please bare with me. I never liked the idea that Japanese managements and labels and such rarely promoted their artists outside of their little "comfort zone". Like they just can't be bothered to test the waters anywhere else. And I'm not talking just in Asia, but other parts of the world. I realize it's not every Japanese act, many have toured outside Japan and Asia. But especially with the bigger acts they would just rather keep them where they make money and that's it. I know that was a factor in GACKT jumping from Nippon to avex, for example. How do you know your singer or group doesn't have a following somewhere outside of the known demographic if you don't properly test the waters? Sometimes I feel they just kind of half-ass it and go 'oh, no support there' when little or nothing comes of it.

Maybe I'm not aware of some factors that have probably been rehashed, but I wish Japanese labels and such would get more of a grip. You don't know who's out there supporting your artist unless you look.
2worldsend 26th-Apr-2012 05:53 pm (UTC)
I think it's because they feel that touring around their own country, or touring neighboring countries is more than enough (Hong Kong and Taiwan are pretty near to Japan). But honestly, I agree with you. How would they know if they don't try?

It's ok if you're new, at least you're not trolling XD

ansuhzol_117 26th-Apr-2012 04:51 pm (UTC)
i think less jpop artists go around the world r the reason y many of us willing to buy lots of their products.each of jpop fans realized that only through buying the products of their fav artist help to show their supports to the artist who lives thousands of miles away from them.
plus i believe, they think that only promoting in their country have brought them lots of profit already :p
many of jpop singer r also active in other activity like acting.they seems to have no time to travel in other countries.like arashi, they r too busy these days even to have a day break.they dont have much time to held an international tour even though they realized that they have quite big fan base every where.

ayaryo 26th-Apr-2012 05:08 pm (UTC)
plus i believe, they think that only promoting in their country have brought them lots of profit already :p

That's one of the reason Kpop ALWAYS debut in Japan. It brings a LOT of profits yo. But that makes me hate them more :3

tha_x 26th-Apr-2012 04:52 pm (UTC)
I always wonder how it's like to live in a country where jpop and/or kpop are REALLY popular. When japanese culture was ~~omfg so cool, kawaaaai~~ here I was too young
debbris 27th-Apr-2012 01:03 am (UTC)
Try living in my country please, we have kpop idols for a national youth celebration event and also for GrandPrix's con.

My government is so nice to the point that I don't see a point going to those free shows.
yunizhamasaki 26th-Apr-2012 05:03 pm (UTC)
It just the same old story. lalalalala
sakuratikah 26th-Apr-2012 05:09 pm (UTC)
Random but I read that "lalalalala" part in the Wild At Heart melody.
harriat 26th-Apr-2012 05:07 pm (UTC)
The actors from Korean Boys over Flower are that handsome?? LOL I don't think so!
Maa, it's same here in my country.
inachan89 26th-Apr-2012 05:53 pm (UTC)
Well to tell the truth i always thought Matsujun looked funny in that perm,not really handsome lol
sharburene 26th-Apr-2012 05:17 pm (UTC)
Welllllll. *shrugs*

Can't really be bothered with the local media.
baboona 26th-Apr-2012 05:20 pm (UTC)
yawn
queencrystallia 26th-Apr-2012 06:54 pm (UTC)
-yawns too-
boukenrider this will never end26th-Apr-2012 05:22 pm (UTC)
i have grown immune to the ~maturity~ and ~open-mindedness~ of mankind

w/e
uledy 26th-Apr-2012 05:31 pm (UTC)
Also, for the series Boys Over Flowers, the Korean version of the four guys is also definitely better looking than the cast in the Japanese version

I'm sorry but this killed me because it's so true….Although I will say that I do love the fact that there are many non-family oriented dramas in Japan, but I feel like the overall production quality is higher in Korea.

I completely agree that J-pop has become stagnant. I left the Japanese music scene 5 years ago, came back and it looked exactly the same. It seems like the top artists, who've been there FOREVER, are way too comfortable with their established roles that they find no need to do anything innovative or different. That shouldn't be the case. I started getting into K-pop during that time and found that the level of showmanship was different- there was way more glitz, excitement and way more accessibility. This was not the case for Japanese music from my perspective. Why would I want to follow a fandom that ignores me?
thewarpedmelody 26th-Apr-2012 06:06 pm (UTC)
well 5 years ago AKB is a nugu group lol, now they're almost everywhere in Japan.
Artistes like Monkey Majik and GReeeeN are consistently pushing out quality songs though,
mizumi10 26th-Apr-2012 05:35 pm (UTC)
Interesting read. Thank you for posting. I realized that I do see these kinds of things between jpop and kpop. But I don't really care to tell you the truth lol. If its good, the it's good. One is not really better than the other (of course I will always be loyal to jpop). I get my portion of Kpop too. Though with Japan's marketing industry, it was always the one thing I never liked compared to Korea's marketing industry. But hey that's just my opinion.
2worldsend 26th-Apr-2012 05:58 pm (UTC)
You're welcome. I was afraid to post at first because of the comments flooding my inbox later. LOL

Actually I was a little peeved at it, but after while I just forget about it and move on with my life lol.

I agree about the marketing part. I always wondered back then why they never come for like... years.. I waited like a decade (and somehow saying that made me sound old).
helios_blue 26th-Apr-2012 05:38 pm (UTC)
LOL the article sums up everything I have in mind for all these years being surrounded by Korean media and its fans.

I still don't understand why Japan won't do a better marketing for their entertainment industry abroad. I believe EXILE's and AKB's management are trying to reach a broader fanbase abroad, but they're not all-out enough like the Korean ones.

I know the contents of their media, like their dramas, can be more subtle and not so appealing for the general audience, but I can always relate to them better than the more flashy/dramatic/eye catching/etc Korean dramas. Too bad most people will be more attracted with the flashier ones.

But when it comes to idols, I kinda agree that Japanese idols have to raise their standards to compete with Kpop idols.

Heh, I can write an essay here but I guess I'll stop now ^^
katzsong 26th-Apr-2012 05:46 pm (UTC)
Japanese idols have to raise their standards to compete with Kpop idols

uhm not really. Agree to disagree. And I shall stop here as well :)

brucelynn 26th-Apr-2012 05:38 pm (UTC)
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I don't know if I want to stick around for this post lol
llamatsuri 26th-Apr-2012 06:16 pm (UTC)
omg a gif of the room in arama?!
eve_aida 26th-Apr-2012 05:40 pm (UTC)
HYD and BOF. The people who said F4 BOF are more handsome than F4 HYD, are they compare them right? Come on, seriously! Out of topic but kinda related - Even You-na and Kim Tae Hee said Matsujun + HYD is super popular in Korea even after BOF o.a. So, isn't there imply any meaning to it?

And I think J-Musics don't go all out/international because they think it'd be impossible for foreign fans to buy the album simply because of the language barriers. But they don't know, it's totally opposite in actuality.
queencrystallia 27th-Apr-2012 06:27 am (UTC)
lol in the japanese version the acting was far better and honestly, i think the japanese cast was more cute. i remember clearly that when i watched the korean version i was skipping most of the stuff cause i could just not handle how terribly robotic jan di was. >.> in my opinion only so eun and min ho really acted well in this drama o_o . kim bum was not that good either, but he was the cutest (not that handsome) sorry to the BOF fans out there.
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