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5:47 pm - 05/03/2012

Music producer Joey Carbone talks about Jpop





Joey Carbone’s list of achievements is certainly quite impressive – composer, music producer, arranger, keyboardist, vocalist, adviser to Avex Music Publishing and Sony Music Entertainment, vice principal of Jikei Gakuen.

Born in Brooklyn, Carbone has been coming to Japan for 30 years. During that time, he has composed or produced more than 1,000 songs recorded by Japanese singers such as SMAP, Morning Musume, Arashi, KAT-TUN, Hiromi Go, Akiko Wada, Crystal Kay and many more. In the States, Carbone has played keyboards for Kiki Dee & Elton John, Rick James, The Righteous Brothers, Eric Carmen, Rod Stewart, Cher, Air Supply, Andy Gibb, Bette Midler and others. He was the music director and theme composer for nine years for the hit television series “Star Search,” and arranged, produced, conducted and played piano for then-budding performers Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Beyonce, Alanis Morisette, Leanne Rimes, Justin Timberlake and others.

He has more than 100 Platinum and Gold record awards. And those are only some of his achievements. These days, the energetic and affable Carbone spends about half his time in Japan and half in LA


What do you think of the musical talent in Japan?

I am impressed with young talent in Japan. They are creating their own stuff. I have signed several students from the schools to both Avex and Sony and we have been able to create quite a few hits with them. It’s one of the things that I really love doing because I feel that it is my responsibility now to give something back to the younger generation. I know what they are going through, what they are dreaming of. I want to help them to achieve their dreams, and to prepare them for the rejection that they will often have to face.

A lot of non-Japanese people often insult J-Pop. Why do you think this is?

Yes, I know. I read their comments on Japan Today. J-Pop is just another genre of music. You can’t compare AKB48 with Aretha Franklin, or SMAP with Eric Clapton. But the Japanese don’t pretend to. J-Pop is just another form of entertainment. I happen to be a big fan of J-Pop and have an extensive collection at home. I love their melodies. Current American music is often void of melody and based on groove and vocal ability.

I go to Johnny’s Jimusho shows and am totally impressed with the package – the music arrangements, quality of songs, production of stage show, danceability and how hard those boys work. SMAP are personalities, they are entertainers. They’re doing what they are supposed to do.



When did your association with Johnny Kitagawa start?

I had written and produced a song in 1985 for a Honda scooter television commercial. It was subsequently released as a single and went to become #1 on the Oricon International chart sung in English by an American singer. Then Johnny heard it and thought it would be a good match for his group Shibugakitai. Their Japanese version hit #1 on the Oricon domestic chart. I attended a Shibugakitai press junket in San Francisco and Johnny asked to meet me next time I was in Tokyo. So I did and gave him a CD with some of my songs. He recorded 12 of them with his new group Shonentai. Since then, we have become close friends and I have written more than 100 songs for various Johnny’s artists. Johnny is truly a genius, as evidenced by his incredible success record and his two Guinness Book awards this year.

Your tally for the Japanese market must be quite high.

I have composed or produced more than 1,000 songs for the Japanese market but that includes American artists for Japan as well. Except for songs written by the Beatles, I think I have written more songs than any other foreign composer, that have been recorded by Japanese artists.

Why aren’t Japanese singers successful in the American market?

Language plays a big part. It doesn’t sound believable if they sing in English that they have learned phonetically. Sometimes the artist management companies in Japan, which have all the power, only want to use songs they can control the rights of, and those songs may not work in America. Sometimes the artist tries to imitate instead of being original. It also takes a tremendous commitment of time, money and energy to penetrate a market like America, and you would have to compete with the best of the best.

I have seen some great artists in Japan with potential. For example, I have produced six songs for Crystal Kay, and she is one of the best singers in the world. Also, her English is flawless, she is a great dancer and beautiful. I think she would have a great chance! On the other hand, I was disappointed when Hikaru Utada’s album was released in America. Her English was perfect but the album didn’t have the same soul or feeling in it as her Japanese CDs. I guarantee that probably some American record executive changed the direction of the music to make it more appropriate for the American market. It ended up sounding contrived.

Another reason, I’m sorry to say, is that there are probably discrimination factors involved. I think the American market mostly wants American, British and an occasional Australian or Swedish artist. I hope it will change in the near future.

How are social media changing the business?

Social media is changing the business. It’s a big shot in the arm. But the Internet has been a double-edged sword. It has severely hurt the music business due to illegal downloading and file-sharing. On the other hand, it has given many artists the ability to promote themselves.




Article is long .  I just post the highlights of his invterview.  You can read the whole article at source: japantoday


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cruel_idol 4th-May-2012 12:55 am (UTC)
I love his work with SMAP & Goro <3



Uploader is a nice person who also uploaded the movie STARRING GORO HIMSELF (Private Lessons 2) and even did a pretty funny analysis of the movie too xD

Edited at 2012-05-04 12:56 am (UTC)
takarai_karin 4th-May-2012 01:18 am (UTC)
I need to find which Shibugakitai song was his first for JE. I like quite a handful of his works, like the ones with SMAP.
peachevening 4th-May-2012 02:17 am (UTC)
He's credited for Shibugakitai's "DJ in My Life," so I assume that's the first one then.
fahrenheitjiro 4th-May-2012 01:40 am (UTC)
/salute
kame_94 4th-May-2012 01:48 am (UTC)
I love this man's work so much. He's epic.
nishya 4th-May-2012 06:34 am (UTC)
*dead from envy right now*
glider 4th-May-2012 02:02 am (UTC)
Another reason, I’m sorry to say, is that there are probably discrimination factors involved. I think the American market mostly wants American, British and an occasional Australian or Swedish artist. I hope it will change in the near future.

this assessment is so spot-on.
exdream1999 4th-May-2012 02:23 am (UTC)
Well, he's just missing Canadians, but yes, so much truth in that statement.
icehism 4th-May-2012 02:07 am (UTC)
i like this guy.
miyukixrinn 4th-May-2012 02:09 am (UTC)
this guy is great.
mizrock20 4th-May-2012 02:18 am (UTC)
I don't think language played that big of a part. Kpop fever got on quite easily. At least here in SE Asia.
exdream1999 4th-May-2012 02:22 am (UTC)
His specifically talking about the American market though, where if you have an accent when you speak English you're looked down upon.

Before the K-pop boom, J-pop was also huge in SE Asia, so, historically, there's always been a flow of popular music through the Asian region.

While, in America, like he saids towards the end of the article, it's either American, Canadian, British, Australisan or Swedish artists who make it big.
exdream1999 4th-May-2012 02:20 am (UTC)
I remember this guy! I've read about his work with J&A elsewhere, but I've never really seen an in-depth interview with him.

I'm really, really glad I read it though, this guy gets it. He gets it so hard.

I also love his comments about how J-pop has a lot of melodies(on average) over American pop which is about grooves and belting.

That was one of the first things that drew me to J-pop were the melodies of the songs.
takarai_karin 4th-May-2012 03:25 am (UTC)
This guy gets it

IKR.

It's so refreshing to hear from somebody who's on both sides of the first and second largest music markets, he knows what's what.

He's certainly not bias or just writing an article about 'those weird Asians and their weird music' for random news outlet by spending a few time googling 'j-pop'
zomboid 4th-May-2012 02:24 am (UTC)
I agree with his views. I like that he's involved in both industries and can see both sides of the coin.
yasmine2009 4th-May-2012 02:51 am (UTC)
Preach.
crimsonbreeze 4th-May-2012 02:45 am (UTC)
"Why aren’t Japanese singers successful in the American market?" Maybe because they haven't even tried? And seriously, Hikki and Jin don't count. Maybe Jin does. A bit.
niainwonderland 4th-May-2012 03:03 am (UTC)
Is he that "reverse weaboo" I keep hearing about?
shiro_renja 4th-May-2012 02:46 am (UTC)
"Current American music is often void of melody and based on groove and vocal ability.

I go to Johnny’s Jimusho shows and am totally impressed with the package – the music arrangements, quality of songs, production of stage show, danceability and how hard those boys work."

Probably the reason why i listen to Jpop (Johnnys or not) and not American music.
koshien 4th-May-2012 06:13 am (UTC)
That quote I was going to comment directly on myself. I'm not particularly a JE fan myself but I completely understand your sentiment, and apply the same logic to UK music too.
yuui1010 4th-May-2012 03:08 am (UTC)
Hmm.......it's interesting, I got to read this.
haruno21 4th-May-2012 03:16 am (UTC)
really interesting. I agree with many things he says
inferi26 4th-May-2012 03:21 am (UTC)
i like this interview. great man.
sheix0 4th-May-2012 03:25 am (UTC)
You can’t compare AKB48 with Aretha Franklin, or SMAP with Eric Clapton. But the Japanese don’t pretend to. J-Pop is just another form of entertainment.

I love their melodies. Current American music is often void of melody and based on groove and vocal ability.

I go to Johnny’s Jimusho shows and am totally impressed with the package – the music arrangements, quality of songs, production of stage show, danceability and how hard those boys work. SMAP are personalities, they are entertainers. They’re doing what they are supposed to do.


I like him.

Edited at 2012-05-04 03:25 am (UTC)
katzsong 4th-May-2012 03:33 am (UTC)
Me too <3
katzsong 4th-May-2012 03:35 am (UTC)
Me likey this article! Thanks for sharing this ^^

His view is quite spot-on and well balanced. And yes, I like Jpop more because they still have melody and actual instruments recording in it.
sadistic_dance 4th-May-2012 03:37 am (UTC)
I was disappointed when Hikaru Utada’s album was released in America. Her English was perfect but the album didn’t have the same soul or feeling in it as her Japanese CDs.
I don't care what anybody says Exodus was amazing and free of flaw.
isolacompulsive 4th-May-2012 05:23 am (UTC)
Word.
nekobot01 4th-May-2012 03:49 am (UTC)
He sounds like an interesting guy!! I just wish the interviewer had been somebody more familiar with music so we could get better questions to ask him... :/
kazuya_raba 4th-May-2012 04:18 am (UTC)
"Current American music is often void of melody and based on groove and vocal ability."

he says this like grooving and singing well is a bad thing. i've lived in japan long enough to get that the goal is to get everyone to have fun singing the song. and the differences behind the music styles is cultural, and therefore different. sometimes i like disney sing alongs, but because i grew up in the african-american church culture that serves as the origins of pretty much all of the state's modern music genres, i do prefer a sultry billie holliday ballad over anything akb will ever produce. music is tied to social issues in the states a lot more than i would say it is in contemporary japanese music, so an emphasis is placed on feelings and messages as opposed to making people bop up and down robotically. but like he said, apples and oranges, different but both have their unique qualities.

and let's be real, neither hikki nor jin were or will be able to make it in the states because of a unique mixture of racism and ability. they cannot sing on the level of non-pop, rnb singers in the states so they will not break the underground scene, and because they are asian they will not be granted the "american girl" pass horrible singers like taylor swift, britney spears, and some other usually blond females get for appealing to mainstream america.

Edited at 2012-05-04 04:34 am (UTC)
familytables 4th-May-2012 07:30 am (UTC)
1 - HELL YEAH ONE THE DISNEY SING ALONGS!

2 - Thank you for pointing out the pne factor he did not talk about. The fact almost all music in America is cultured related or attached to an issues. That being said, it also proves that Japanese music has more than enough of a open window/door to make it over here if they just find the right topis and sound. And really the right topics aren't even that hard. A danm good love song is a danm good love song. A song about being young wondering wtf is going to happen to you in 3 years time is going to have the same effect. Really the hardest thing to do to is get people to take their heads out their ass an listen. That's not even a thing that JPOP alone has to deal with. I know tons of people who wouldn't dare ever listen to a country song, oldies, rap, r&b (really r&b not that half assed shit they play now), rock...etc.

I don't know much abotu Hikki, but Jin has a very minor door open for him, but his biggest problem is the people behind him. While it's nice Jin dosen't want to limit himself, he has no base. He needs to be one or two genders of music right now. Also He need to learn what the fuck he's talking about.I get tired of him saying "This is so American or that..." No Jin, that is Cali and New York, not American. (BTW anyone thing that will be like the biggest gem ever. If someone realised what USA stand for and realised Each State, differant taste)

Sorry for ranting along here. Anyway great post.
mellastella 4th-May-2012 04:38 am (UTC)
I like this article so very much. This guy seems awesome. :)
love323able 4th-May-2012 04:47 am (UTC)
many things i agree with, maybe crystal kay does have a chance :D
i should listen to her first though lol
helios_blue 4th-May-2012 04:50 am (UTC)
I love their melodies. Current American music is often void of melody and based on groove and vocal ability.

Spot on, sir
Reminds me to the first time I really listened to Jpop. Feels like I've found the real potential of music :)
fallblau_129 5th-May-2012 04:21 am (UTC)
i was about to highlight that part, too :)

i really have the same feeling with the current american music...
kurakura_chan 4th-May-2012 05:01 am (UTC)
i like how he articulate his mind without being rude or offensive.
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