Arama They Didn't

4:55 pm - 06/08/2012

I wanna be a Jpop idol! (not me!, its just the article's title)

In these few months im noticing that many foreigns want to try to be a Talento or and "Idol" in Japan . i started to search some websites about how to become a " japanese idol" and i found some very interesting articles.

If you are thinking about making it big with oishii!project as an idol, please read this.


(Its a 2006 article)

It’s been awhile since I saw Thane Camus, Japan’s favorite foreign ‘talent’, on Japanese TV. A recent article on Crisscross News has revealed why:

This year has seen a bit of an upheaval in Camus’ life after he decided to leave the agency he had been with for 14 years, resulting in a bitter court battle. Camus says the worst is behind him, but adds that the protracted negative publicity has had an effect on his work offers. “I used to have regular spots on TV, but at the moment, I am limited in what I am able to choose. Fortunately, I have been in the industry for 15 years, so I have established a lot of relationships, regardless of whether I change agencies or not.”

In the meantime, having learned the lessons from his past agency, Camus and a colleague, Michael Anop, have established a new talent agency for foreigners, Eclipse Production (www.eclipsepro.jp). “We are foreigners dealing with foreigners, which is a little bit different. It will be for foreigners who speak Japanese fluently and have an area of expertise. We will be open from the very beginning about how much we are getting and what percentage we take,” Camus says.

I may not be much of a fan of Camus, but his move to create a talent agency by foreigners for foreigners seems like a good idea. For too long, Japanese talent agencies have made a killing by whoring out Japanese and foreign actors and comedians. It’s not uncommon for such agencies to take nearly 90% of their stars’ earnings. Many entertainers are paid set salaries much lower than what they would actually make if they were paid based on their actual television appearances. In Japan’s climate of one-gag comedians and fads that rise and fall quickly, this often leaves comedians and ‘talent’ in the poor house when their popularity dies and they are cut from their agency(in other countries, being paid to appear on TV several days a week over the course of a year might leave you with enough money to live comfortably for years). Most Entertainers see joining the greedy talent agencies as the only means to become popular, and they are pretty much correct. Most TV programs only accept performers who are provided by the major talent agencies. It doesn’t matter if you have a hilarious comedy act that beats the shit out of lame-asses like Neko Hiroshi, if you aren’t signed with a talent agency who is buddy-buddy with all the networks, you don’t get on TV. You’d think that entertainers would try to organize themselves and fight this horrible system, but it just isn’t happening.

Most Japanese people I’ve mentioned the system to think it is fair. After all, the talent agencies often provide housing and some pocket money to entertainers before their popularity takes off. It’s a risky investment to provide food and housing for an entertainer who could fail, so that entitles the talent agencies to take a gigantic cut out of any earnings that entertainer makes when he/she becomes popular. No need for change, right?

British Soccer Expert Tony Crosbie, one of the foreign entertainers who has signed with Camus’ new agency

Clearly Thane Camus and other foreign entertainers are not putting up with this bullshit. Right now Thane’s agency is focusing on promoting foreigners who can fluently communicate in Japanese and speak intelligently about topics. Perhaps this is good, since it’s kind of degrading to provide foreigners for the typical “wacky foreign dancing monkey” segments on variety shows. It might also spare them the fate of Bobby Ologun, a foreign entertainer who constantly degraded himself by playing moronic negro minstrel roles on TV.

Bobby Ologun, formerly Japanese television’s favorite negro comedian

Bobby tried to break free from his greedy talent agency, eventually culminating in a brawl in the offices of the agency back in January. The agency punished him with a 3 month ban on television appearances, which appears to have been extended indefinately. While Bobby remains under contract with the agency until December 2007, he has nonetheless started his own talent agency. He still isn’t appearing on any TV shows, but he does seem to be making a living from K-1 matches. Considering what Bobby’s television personality was like, this isn’t exactly a tragedy for foreigners in Japan.

There is a new survery translation over at What Japan Thinks today. The Japanese internet site ‘goo’ asked Japanese people what foreign-born celebrity they would most like to go on a trip overseas with. Thane Camus was the top-ranking celebrity. He might have trouble appearing on TV as much as he used to, but his fans still like him. Hopefully this is a good sign for Thane and his new talent agency. As an opponent of lame talent agency system, I’m all for the success of Thane’s venture (as long as he doesn’t actually end up ripping off entertainers worse than the Japanese talent agencies do).

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Also, for those who are interested i found many websites of agencies that take Foreign talents.

List is Here

And:
Hori Agency
Lespros
Hirata Office
Tommys Company
Ken on
Fit Fan

I dont know if this talents agencies are good or bad, but if you are interested, taking a look wont hurt you,right? XD.

Taking again the topic, Arama, what do you think about the gaijins who wants to be famous in japan? I´ve seen many people arguing, telling this jpop idols wannabe that if they want to be a star so bad, why they dont start being famous in their own country?.   I think that is not wrong wanting to be famous in X country but i seriuosly feel pity for those who wants to be famous in Japan just because they have this country so idealized to a level that is simply ridiculous. I sometimes feel like they really believe that after doing a concert in Tokyo Dome wearing cute outfits and dating Jhonny's they will go home to watch anime. I mean, if you want to be an idol you MUST know that you are entering to a BUSINESS and you HAVE to make money like in any other career. Jesus....

Those glamorous bikinis photobooks are just a part of the job that is seen. They dont seem to read the part when the idols get hospitalized by fatigue and injuries (and all those fights about contracts and getting fired over stupid things, or getting sexually abused, or just being stalked by not only the press...but by everyone around you!! even family members and friends! I know Ayumi Hamasaki looks super cool in those paparazzi photos, but im sure she doesnt think the same!!).  

BTW, here some comments that i took from google that answered to the people saying they want to be idols in japan:

-Be careful in Japan as many "agencies" are nothing but semi-pornographic


-You almost remind me of MAGIBON (see Youtube)
But if you want to model professionally like in Vouge Nippon, maybe you sent your resume to their offices? Obviously you need to learn how to speak japanese. You can consider modeling for top agencies like that but you won't be like "JAPANS' NEXT TOP MODEL" or anything like that.

-GET REAL GURLFRIEND. get some real Goals

- You are not Japanese and you want to be a Japanese idol? know i have heard it all...lol

- The Internet is a dangerous place. You should really put some clothes on. Good luck with learning Japanese though. It's a fascinating language.

- Just being a foreigner in Japan doesn't mean anything anymore. If you can't make it as a singer in your own country, you ain't gonna make it here, either.


Source: Here . And if you have time read this,

My job here is done.

iusta_rum 12th-Jun-2012 05:43 pm (UTC)
I see your point.

but if, for example, if my biggest dream is being a sushi chef in japan and i make my dreams come true, wouldnt that make me more "professional" than a sushi chef that havent even go to japan? Wouldnt a luxury restaurant hire me first than the other guy who isnt a master sushi chef in Japan? Or if i have my own restaurant, wouldnt my experience in japan as sushi chef be useful when magazines write about me? they could write things like "The chef of the Sushi Bar XXXX is a master chef who went to japan to learn from japanese chefs how to make te perfect sushi" xD wouldnt that make me more marketable as a chef?

Being an idol in Japan its the same. If i get the oportunity of being acepted in ...i dont know...Morning Musume or AKB48 and i become a popular member, wouldnt that help me to get, for example, a TV show in my own country even if im nobody there? Just look the example of Utada Hikaru or Akanishi Jin and now Perfume. Outside Asia, they are nobody, but because they are somebody in Asia, they can try to make a debut overseas. To become a Idol in japan is as hard as trying to become an idol in any country because you have to compete with the people who already are famous, with the people who are getting famous and the people who are aspiring to be famous. But at the smae time it looks easy because it looks like you dont have to be professional unlike Korea or Hollywood.

Wanting to be famous in japan is not wrong, what is wrong is wanting to get famous "just because". Because it looks easy and cute. I think its like playing with fire. IF these girls of oishii project and those independent youtube dancers, for example, want to be famous, they must be careful, because they may acomplish (even only for 15 minutes like Andy warhol said) it and because their dreams only stopped in "want to be famous" they wont know whats the next step and ruin it just like beckii cruel did.

All of this foreign-jpop idol-wannabe lacks passion. They wont be famous because they dont love what they do,they dont know what they are doing, and because they dont love and know what they (want to) do, they dont have any "art" to show.
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