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3:58 pm - 07/06/2012

Parents use picture book of 'hell' to get kids to behave

A depiction of hell in the picture book "Ehon Jigoku" shows demons chopping up human bodies. (The Asahi Shimbun)

A children's picture book depicting demons chopping up human bodies and touting the message "Bad kids go to hell" has been flying off bookshelves and scaring the wits out of the kiddies.

Published by Futosha Co., "Ehon Jigoku" (Picture book of hell) has sold about 100,000 copies in the last half year, approaching the 110,000 copies sold over about 30 years through the end of 2011.

"Ehon Jigoku" was first published in 1980, but only sold about 3,000 copies a year at best. But sales took off after cartoonist Akiko Higashimura introduced it in her “Mama wa Temparist” (Panicky mom) manga, published by Shueisha Inc., in November. The scary book's reputation spread over the Internet and by word of mouth. The book was ranked the No. 1 selling picture book at online retailer Amazon.co.jp for the first half of this year.


“Ehon Jigoku” is the story of a man who does bad things and is brought to the Great King Emma Daio, who rules hell. Emma Daio shows the man his fate if he doesn't learn to straighten up and fly right, including scenes of chopping up bodies and being burned alive. After witnessing such horrific scenes, the protagonist repents for his past deeds and resolves to live his life as a good man.

“After reading the book, my child came to obey me,” one mother said.

"Ehon Jigoku" was conceived by Yukio Takahashi, former president of Futosha.

“I came up with the idea to tell children not to waste their lives,” Takahashi, now 81, said. “I wanted them to think about death.”

Takahashi used dynamic depictions of hell from picture scrolls housed at Enmeiji temple in Minami-Boso, Chiba Prefecture, and came up with the story under the supervision of art historian Tsugio Miya. The book was written by Nariaki Shirani.

So far, there has been no criticism that the book “is too brutal,” according to the publisher.

“My kids cry every time they see the illustrations," wrote one reader. "But for some unfathomable reason, they say they want to see them again and ask me to read the book to them.”

However, some scholars question the approach of parents getting children to obey them by showing them frightening pictures.

“It is too simplistic to get a result by telling children not to do bad things by scaring them," said Masami Ohinata, professor of development psychology at Keisen University Graduate School. "What's important for them is to go through a thought process of why it is wrong to misbehave.”

Hiromitsu Nakamura, director of the children’s education center at Beppu University, said adults should take children’s personalities into consideration, while admitting that parents have long used a threatening approach to get their kids to behave.

“I suggest that adult readers change their voice and communicate with children so as not to unnecessarily frighten them,” Nakamura said.


Source: The Asahi Shimbun

I know some kids that could use this...Arama, is this too brutal? Not brutal enough? How did your parents/guardians get you to behave?
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atelierlune 6th-Jul-2012 09:25 pm (UTC)
I'm telling myself that Eastern depictions of hell are different than Western depictions of hell, but this is still terribly cynical to me, and lazy parenting. What happens when you develop grown children who aren't afraid of depictions of violent punishment?
czarny 6th-Jul-2012 11:39 pm (UTC)
Some people like being punished!
kaleido37 6th-Jul-2012 09:35 pm (UTC)

cute book.
miesachie 9th-Jul-2012 12:26 pm (UTC)
+1
sibylblack 6th-Jul-2012 09:40 pm (UTC)
I think it's stupid to scare kids to make them behave.
chopper 6th-Jul-2012 09:44 pm (UTC)
if it's working and that's what the parents want, then sure ok. like and if the kids want to keep reading it even after being so frightened...
akbitches 6th-Jul-2012 09:47 pm (UTC)
well thats just foolish my parents used to threaten me with a fat white w/ a sleigh guy not giving me gifts once a year if i wasnt good
sayhitoforever 6th-Jul-2012 10:23 pm (UTC)
A+
prismboy 6th-Jul-2012 09:50 pm (UTC)
My parents and my parents' church would scare the hell out of me with hell and demons. I had a really tough childhood because of that and I would have reoccurring nightmares. It was horrible. I was scared of everything and always had to "pray" to feel better. But it was good in the end because then I grew up and realized it was all so silly and became an Atheist.

In the end, I don't think this is a good idea to make kids behave, only in really extreme cases I guess. If not they would have a crappy childhood like mine, or even worse. Fear is not a good way on raising children.
chopper 6th-Jul-2012 09:55 pm (UTC)
i'm going to have to say same thing happened to me, i was always afraid of going to hell and such when i was younger and had to pray to make myself feel better, almost obsessively. i was like that until about ninth grade, really. so i don't think it's necessarily a good idea because feeling guilty/afraid of trivial little things that i did wrong when i was younger was just a preoccupation and it didn't really make me into a "good" person, at least, i'm no better than anyone else.

sry for rambling but yeah i just showed this article to my grandmother and she was like "oh that's stupid you shouldn't scare children" but i just looked at her like huh? because that's pretty much what they do at church. it's not meant to be like that but i think that a lot of adults underestimate what goes through a kids head when they hear the stories about being a sinner and what not.
kazuninomi IT DEPENDS ON THE RELEGION AND THINKING THERE IS NO NO OR YES ON THIS TOPIC6th-Jul-2012 10:16 pm (UTC)
well i dont know about western people or others but in the

MIDDLE EAST we do believe in hell and stuff and we do scare children with it but we dont say other creatures aside from the devil and we dont use scary books also we teach them nicely

also as we do believe in heaven,hell and god its pretty natural to scare children and even adults with it

but to say it again we do not use books and creatures we just make them imagen what is scary

Edited at 2012-07-06 10:16 pm (UTC)
czarny Re: IT DEPENDS ON THE RELEGION AND THINKING THERE IS NO NO OR YES ON THIS TOPIC6th-Jul-2012 11:37 pm (UTC)
That's awful
frequency 6th-Jul-2012 10:28 pm (UTC)
my mom would make me put my nose on a wall or write a letter saying what life would be like by myself. a little unusual, and it sounds silly. but i guess they worked cause people always say i'm well-behaved.
flutterbychild9 6th-Jul-2012 10:38 pm (UTC)
.......whatever happened to good old spankings and taking privileges/toys away? >.> That's how I was raised.

Seriously though a better approach would be to, idk, *parent* your child. Like, ask them "if someone did to you what you just did to that little boy over there how would you feel?" Stuff that actually applies to the real world, y'know? Scaring your children into obeying you seems awfully...dictator-ish. :S Definitely not what a parent should be doing at all.
czarny 6th-Jul-2012 11:36 pm (UTC)
Spanking is illegal in a lot of countries (child abuse laws).
annhh 6th-Jul-2012 10:43 pm (UTC)
“It is too simplistic to get a result by telling children not to do bad things by scaring them," said Masami Ohinata, professor of development psychology at Keisen University Graduate School. "What's important for them is to go through a thought process of why it is wrong to misbehave.”

true. shame there's not enough psychological reasoning
mrjl_writer 6th-Jul-2012 10:56 pm (UTC)
How did your parents/guardians get you to behave?

By instilling in us when we were very young that you behave because it's the right thing to do, not because you were rewarded if you were and punished if you weren't. All any kid learns from being scared into behaving is fear. Fear fear fear. It's no different than using the boogeyman to get kids to sleep. Scaring children isn't parenting and is not justifiable for any reason religion included, unless you're trying to show teenagers who get stupid behind the wheel the very real negative consequences of such actions. Any parent who is and has ever used scare tactics to get their kids to behave deserves a night in the most terrifying haunted house that exists.
ayustar 7th-Jul-2012 03:41 am (UTC)
Right! You can't just scare children, if that's all you rely on is fear your children will not know consequence. Teaching your children consequences of their own actions is important. Being accountable for what you do. Using fear seems like the easy way out.
fumine 6th-Jul-2012 10:58 pm (UTC)
It really sounds like lazy parenting to me...

...And personally, it reminds me of Roman Catholicism and why I turned my back on it. A religion (even partially) based on the fear of hell and eternal suffering sounds like the wrong approach to me. Same goes for using it as an educational method.
The best way to make a child learn after all is through a positive approach, and even if there are times when it misbehaves and needs to be punished, it should stay off the "your afterlife will be hell" level IMO. How is a child even supposed to fully understand that? I think kids and religion do not make a good combination.

As for how my parents punished me: There wasn't really much need to from the beginning, my upbringing was fairly strict with set rules - but then again I often see that lack of discipline with kids nowadays, mothers and fathers that behave more like their childrens' best friends (always staying on the good side) and not a figure of authority. When I did get punished, I had to stay at home instead of meeting my friends or going to a birthday party, or I did not get pocket money/a toy I wanted. My parents' mood was also very morose during that time, so I really noticed I had upset them and it wasn't a matter that was forgotten in the blink of an eye.

So what I see wrong with this book is that it does not teach a child the consequences of bad behavior in the physical world (where it matters most of all), but instead moves it to a shady "after life" plane that children have trouble understanding.

Edited at 2012-07-06 11:05 pm (UTC)
flutterbychild9 7th-Jul-2012 12:42 am (UTC)
How is a child even supposed to fully understand that?

And then there's this. The images may be shocking, yes, but I don't think the message truly hits home. It's like handing a person with no concept of money/care for finances a credit card - buy now, pay later.
ozawa_chan 6th-Jul-2012 11:10 pm (UTC)
My parents put me in dark tiny room to punish me. They also hit me but somehow I was more scared of being in the dark XP
czarny 6th-Jul-2012 11:35 pm (UTC)
Uhm :/
zeli17 6th-Jul-2012 11:14 pm (UTC)
Spanking, having my mouth washed out, and other fun things...
czarny 6th-Jul-2012 11:35 pm (UTC)
Oh like Saudi Arabia then.
kamelover101 7th-Jul-2012 01:27 am (UTC)
And the Vatican.

And basically every religion.

sirhin 6th-Jul-2012 11:43 pm (UTC)
The parents should take them to that park that has life-sized models of what happens to you in hell. :D
kame_94 6th-Jul-2012 11:43 pm (UTC)
I was raised with 5 older brothers and a sister. When I was growing up, I always wanted to be mature (like my eldest brother), so I was really well-behaved. I got spanked a couple times though when I was young.

My parents wouldn't ground us. They'd yell, or talk.. For a long time, I was afraid of my father whenever he'd have outbursts. I do remember, though, my dad would "wash our mouths out with chocolate" (mini Reese peanut butter cups) for cussing.. lol. So that we would get it out of our system & it would only happen maybe once a week or every 2 weeks. It taught us to not cuss or act up in front of company, because whoever did wouldn't get chocolate next time.

The lack of discipline caused 3 of my brothers to still be immature even in their in the 20's. They had/have no motivation to grow up, where as I always wanted to be considered grown up - Thus, why I had so much drive going through school, had the best academics, went to uni, got a job, etc.
miki_831 7th-Jul-2012 12:01 am (UTC)
If you are religious, I think teaching children to anticipate the benefits of heaven is more effective in the long run than to fear hell.
kamelover101 7th-Jul-2012 01:26 am (UTC)
THIS.

That's what my parents do !!

We are taught that gods mercy precedes his wrat
kachuusha 7th-Jul-2012 12:31 am (UTC)
i'm not religious so i probably wouldn't use this. i just got spanked, yelled at, had my tv/computer/ect taken away from me and it was restricted really well and that taught me how to be a better child growing up. then again, i was already pretty quiet as a child.
ilove_ryo 7th-Jul-2012 01:14 am (UTC)
i don't think this is the right way to do it -_- the parents just lazy to spend more time to know their child in order to make them behave the way they want, so they just go buy some picture book and scare them

i won't do that if i ever have kids, -_- that's just giving them the wrong image of hell
dramaticsurgeon 7th-Jul-2012 02:05 am (UTC)
Wow. So, which is the lesson that will make the child a better person in the long run?

"Don't hit your sister. How would you feel if she just walked up and smacked you in the face? No allowance this week. Now go ask her how she felt when you hit her."

"Don't hit your sister or a demon will carve you up and decorate his house with your intestines. Don't believe me? Here's a picture detailing exactly what will happen."

Would both work? Possibly. Which one will scar the child for life and leave them with a deep-seated neurosis?

This is keeping in mind the Far East has a much different perspective on religious icons, and demons don't necessarily have the same fear-inducing power over one's eternal existence as they do in the primarily monotheistic religions of the West and Middle East. However, the principle is roughly the same. The "fire and brimstone" version of Catholicism and Christianity was drilled into me as a child to the point I was terrified of my own thoughts, because if God knew I was "being bad" my soul was going straight on the Highway to Hell. As an adult I learned to think and decide things for myself, but only after many nightmares and a lot of internal strife.

It seems in every generation, some "qualified professionals" have some unquestionably questionable methods of child-rearing. In the meantime, Little Timmy hasn't learned a thing about why he shouldn't hit his sister other than he'll wake up to find a demon sawing away at his gut. Effective...but is it rational?
pink_plushie 7th-Jul-2012 02:22 am (UTC)
Behave well or you will go to an imaginary hell once you die!

...


Nope, if western religious bullshit didn't work for me, this won't either.
fukkthedumbshyt 7th-Jul-2012 02:41 am (UTC)
My parents just whooped my ass and you know what....it worked.
mjspice 7th-Jul-2012 02:45 am (UTC)
Thank God my parents never scared me like that. :S
winds_daichi 7th-Jul-2012 02:59 am (UTC)
When I was little, I got the spankings, yelled at, stuff taken away for certain amount of time, grounded...yea, I got it all. (Let's note that when I was a kid, I made straight As in school, but I was bad outside.) Anyway, I always vowed that I would never yell at my daughter. Spankings...yep...just not a lot. Grounded...that's the main punishment I'm doing.

I was raised in the church, so according to the Bible, spankings are approved and recommended. It's the Godly way of showing your kids that you love them through discipline. *rolls eyes* And people are wondering why I'm distancing myself away from the church slowly.
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