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6:12 pm - 02/26/2013

‘Ban Abortion to Improve Birthrate’ Says Japanese Politician & Netizen comments



Abortion in Japan has something of a chequered history; while the earliest records of induced abortions date from the 12th century, it was banned nationwide shortly after the 1868 Meiji Restoration, then made criminal in 1907 under the Criminal Abortion Law.

While this law is technically still in force today, it has been made somewhat redundant due to other legislation such as the 1948 Eugenic Protection Law, revised in 1966 as the Maternal Health Protection Law. This means that abortion is effectively legal in Japan.

Furthermore, abortion is widely accepted in Japan, since it has none of the Judeo-Christian influence that makes abortion a difficult issue in some Western nations.

This recent column published in the Asahi Shimbun by Liberal Democratic Party politician Noda Seiko suggests that abortion should be prohibited in an attempt to address the falling birthrate. Japanese netizen comments strongly disagree with her proposed policies, highlighting almost uniformly supportive attitudes towards abortion.

From Asahi Shimbun:

‘Falling Birthrate Strategy Should Begin With Abortion Issue’ Says LDP Chairperson Noda
Noda Seiko, Chairperson of the Liberal Democratic Party Executive Council

With 200,000 pregnancies being terminated per year, if we are to counteract the falling birthrate, then we must begin there. I intend to have this reviewed in the party’s Special Committee on Population Decline in Society following the Upper House elections. We will not only prohibit abortion, but instead of prohibition we must also create laws (to mediate) child adoption, and prepare an environment in which children who are born can be brought up in society.

Comments from 2ch.net

名無しさん@13周年:
So she’s saying give birth to unwanted children?

名無しさん@13周年:
Is she a Christian, this woman?

名無しさん@13周年:
Fucked up. So she wants to increase the number of unhappy children that much, does she?

名無しさん@13周年:
Completely disregards victims of rape. What the hell, this bitch.

名無しさん@13周年:
Is she stupid? Make an environment where we want to bring up kids.

名無しさん@13周年:
A frightening remark by Noda. It’s true what they say, woman’s greatest enemy is woman.

名無しさん@13周年:
If you lower the legal age of marriage for girls to 13, I reckon the falling birthrate will resolve itself.

名無しさん@13周年:
You can’t just prohibit abortion from the perspective of the falling birthrate w Crazy as ever. In the end, what she’s saying is no different from saying ‘Hey, let’s control women’s births and abortions!

名無しさん@13周年:
Single mothers will increase, and social welfare costs are going to explode.

名無しさん@13周年:
Welfare benefits for mothers and kids will go up, so, rejection.

名無しさん@13周年:
First I’d like her to do something about the kids who are born and not aborted, but then murdered.

名無しさん@13周年:
Actually, it’s a lot of the old hags who are the ones having the abortions. Kids with Down’s syndrome and deformities will increase, and the burden on citizens will grow.

名無しさん@13周年:
They should poke a hole in 1 in every 100 condoms to go along with this w


Comments from Twitter:

漂泊の落人:
It’s not that I don’t understand her feelings, but I think that first and foremost we should prepare a social environment where we can bring up children. Thus, I think she should take the initiative and welcome adoption, and become a vanguard in society.

ν篠田麻里子(高町みなみ):
What will happen as a result of this? She’s just a crazy person who is only seeing this as a result of the falling birthrate.

きとさん:
I reckon they’re better off accepting bigamy and early marriages (Lolita marriages? [pun on 'loli-kon'].

ピロぽん:
Even if they prohibit abortion, that’s not exactly a strategy to combat the falling birthrate.

岳画殺@香港台湾~札幌和歌山へ!:
It’s like those religious forces abroad w

クニさん 06:53
Will she even prohibit terminations for pregnancies in women who are victims of crime?

U_nmt:
What kind of fundamentalist country is this? This bitch is just trying to increase friends for her kid because it’s got disabilities, and she had floods of criticism for giving birth at such an advanced age.

ぺりあんぬ@がんばれる気がしない:
I’m against this, because the kids will be much worse off, poor things.

うどん(ウー):
She’s crazy. I bet she thinks we should just go back to the Edo period.

梅鉢チズル(CONTRACT BLUE:
I kind of understand her…but to do it by these extreme means…

裕起:
This is no good. I think this is only going to carelessly increase the number of unwanted children.

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eternityras 26th-Feb-2013 10:53 pm (UTC)
no
atelierlune 26th-Feb-2013 11:23 pm (UTC)
/thread
asth77 26th-Feb-2013 11:02 pm (UTC)
Hebergeur d'image
mumbles 26th-Feb-2013 11:03 pm (UTC)
hell no
harukakamiya 26th-Feb-2013 11:14 pm (UTC)
No, ma'am.

The netizen comments pretty much said it all.
anduril_narsil 26th-Feb-2013 11:21 pm (UTC)
Improve the women's benefit at the workplace first? So women can come back and join the workforce. Give them a piece a mind during pregnancy and labour. Thank you.

PS: Nice to read 2ch wanted the same thing as I want.

Edited at 2013-02-26 11:24 pm (UTC)
myharu 26th-Feb-2013 11:38 pm (UTC)
I agree with you about giving women job security during her maternity leave. I think it'll encourage more women to have kids earlier and thus creating the possibility of having more kids before biology takes over.
silvia_deedee 26th-Feb-2013 11:36 pm (UTC)
In spain until a few years ago the abortion was banned. but the birthrate didn´t improve. now, the new government wants to ban it again because they are catholic. but the problem is that the abortion will continue, but illegaly. (this could be dangerous for the woman)
Also i have read in the japanese news there are women that kill her babies. this don´t happen in Spain. So if japan bans the abortion, the murders will augment. i suppose it.

i need to improve my english, i´m sorry
baka_tenshi 27th-Feb-2013 12:00 am (UTC)
i really hope spain does the right thing and stop that bullshit. :(
love323able 26th-Feb-2013 11:42 pm (UTC)
Even that wont improve the birthrate
stef_ipa 26th-Feb-2013 11:43 pm (UTC)
those are some big numbers i most say, but this is not the right approach, you need to do lots of other things before even thinking something like this, i mean it's way to extreme

plus i loved the remark of "Is she a Christian, this woman?" hehe
inachan89 26th-Feb-2013 11:43 pm (UTC)
No.
dramaticsurgeon 26th-Feb-2013 11:54 pm (UTC)
....... >_>

So...to increase the birthrate, rather than actually taking care of the problem at its root (stronger economic support for single and/or working mothers) you would rather forbid them from abortion. Which will in turn either a) force the women underground to get a back-alley abortion that will potentially mar or kill them, or b) increase the strain on orphanages after women start dropping baskets on their doorstep every night and give rise to an entire generation of unloved, unsupported children.

Brilliant. Simply f-ing brilliant.

You know you've really screwed up when *2chan netizens* are saying you've gone too far.

baka_tenshi 26th-Feb-2013 11:59 pm (UTC)
absolutely no.
katzsong 27th-Feb-2013 12:37 am (UTC)
Gurl, you need to come up with a better plan. some netizens already said it. Take a hint.

And just want to mention, Islamic countries (or countries with Moslem as majority) also banned abortions. Just saying.
dafairyness 27th-Feb-2013 12:40 am (UTC)
No.

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pamuya 27th-Feb-2013 12:55 am (UTC)
hisjulliet 27th-Feb-2013 12:56 am (UTC)
No.
doujoushin 27th-Feb-2013 01:28 am (UTC)
Yes, let's force the people who get pregnant to keep their kids. That's the way to go about this issue.
Makes it even worse that she as a woman says this.
xanithofdragons 27th-Feb-2013 01:42 am (UTC)
Saying something like this just shows that she doesn't understand the issue at all.

You know you've said something really awful when 2ch netizens have a more solid base in logic.
yasmine2009 27th-Feb-2013 02:42 am (UTC)
"If you lower the legal age of marriage for girls to 13, I reckon the falling birthrate will resolve itself."

Oh, ew. photo 24evwhu.gif

Anyways. NO. This solves nothing. Like others have said, try giving women job security.
fauxparadiso 27th-Feb-2013 06:53 am (UTC)
I don't even want to imagine the lifestyle of the likely 40 year old man that posted that.
baboona 27th-Feb-2013 02:59 am (UTC)
omg...
citrine047 27th-Feb-2013 03:33 am (UTC)
well...
sorry but i give up at Is she a Christian, this woman?

but it's true simply banning abortion doesn't solve anything.
iylover 27th-Feb-2013 05:16 am (UTC)
...lol no.

Having children with parent who will just give them up or be unhappy is not the way to solve the birthrate issue.

People seriously make no sense.
crsg 27th-Feb-2013 06:08 am (UTC)
NO. Just no.
k0dama 27th-Feb-2013 06:13 am (UTC)
What???

Let's ignore reproductive rights because its easier than changing culture to be more family and kid friendly??

Are you kidding me?????
turtle_yurippe 27th-Feb-2013 06:48 am (UTC)
Yeah, because forcing someone who doesn't want a child or can't afford it to have one anyway is totally not gonna cause any problems. Good thinking, bitch, good thinking.

That said, I do think many Japanese need more lessons on birth control. While I'm totally pro-choice, I feel like many abortions here could be avoided if people knew how to use contraception. But I guess that would decrease the birth rates even further...
exdream1999 27th-Feb-2013 09:00 am (UTC)
Just came here to leave this:

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dogangel22 27th-Feb-2013 06:00 pm (UTC)
LOL where is this from? i must see the original clip
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