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Kyary Pamyu Pamyu cancelled S. Korea concert of WORLD TOUR 2013 due to rising sun flag

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Enews24 Korea has reported that Kyary Pamyu Pamyu's S. Korea leg of her 100% KPP World Tour 2013 scheduled for March 10 had been cancelled. 


According to the same media, Kyary was scheduled to perform a concert at Seoul UNIQLO ax this month.  But it was abruptly cancelled two weeks ago for reasons not disclosed. Because the cancellation took place before tickets go on sale, there was no refund issued.


According to people familiar with the matter, the cancellation was the result of the uproar caused by the "Rising Sun flag" Kyary posted on Twitter on December 31, 2012.  It was a picture of her as the sunrise image with the message "Happy New Year" on New Year's Day this year. It came across as "reminiscent of the Rising Sun flag" that Korean netizens  were hotly debating about. 
After some initial backlash, the photos were removed from her account. However, by that point the damage was already done and words had quickly spread through Korean forums. This comes months after she gained positive feedback from Korean fans regarding the incident with K-pop group T-ARAKyary Pamyu Pamyu posted several tweets that appeared to admonish the group for bullying fellow member Hwa Young and eventually causing her to leave.


Last month, "100% KPP WORLD TOUR 2013" first concert opened in Belgium. Followed by performances in France and the United Kingdom.  Kyary Pamyu Pamyu planned to travel to Taiwan, Hong Kong, and the United States next.
(From Cinema Today)



Source1: entameblog, twitter.com/pamyurin/
Source2 and image: japancrush
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erika_sawajiri 10th-Mar-2013 12:55 am (UTC)
she is trash
b1gay4 10th-Mar-2013 02:53 am (UTC)
im sure she is
myharu 10th-Mar-2013 01:02 am (UTC)
b1gay4 10th-Mar-2013 02:53 am (UTC)
where did u get that dp
glimmeringneon 10th-Mar-2013 01:02 am (UTC)
YAY more Japan versus South Korea wank bait posts.

Japan is the arrogant douche-bag guy and South Korea is the proud insecure guy.

That's pretty much how I see any posts like this.
umbrellaphone 10th-Mar-2013 01:16 am (UTC)
Unless the pic had Korea-hate undertones, I honestly don't see anything wrong with the pic. /shrugs, oh well.
doinkies 10th-Mar-2013 01:19 am (UTC)
A common New Year's motif in Japan is the first sunrise over a mountain, I think that's what she was going for.

Edit: To show what I'm talking about here's some illustrations I found of "the first sunrise of the year" (初日の出), some of which use "rising sun"-esque backgrounds. [For some reason some NSFW art got mixed in there too...>_>] I think Kyary simply wanted to use a common New Year's motif for her pic, but didn't know a "rising sun" background would upset K-netizens. I highly doubt she hates Korea.

(If I were her I would have used a "sun" like this: http://nengaj.com/illust/huzi.jpg)

Edited at 2013-03-10 02:29 am (UTC)
riapi 10th-Mar-2013 01:21 am (UTC)
Maaan.. Sometimes they are overly sensitive... Even the most trivial thibg, they would suspect its against them or anything..

Or maybe, its just my country that is not so sensitive about those wwII related shits..
45s 10th-Mar-2013 02:10 am (UTC)
Yeah but it's not trivial.

It is not difficult to google a wiki article and try to understand why one would be met with this reaction.

nozo_rin 10th-Mar-2013 01:47 am (UTC)
I dont get how this would offend South Korea at all
hadashi_no_eden 10th-Mar-2013 01:51 am (UTC)
The Raising Sun flag is the symbol of Japanese imperialism.
liime_arix 10th-Mar-2013 02:05 am (UTC)
Welp.

If anyone is wondering, the rising sun flag was a war flag Imperial Japanese Army until the end of WW2. The flag and image itself is considered offensive to victims and countries that had to deal with Japan's imperialism back then. It's kinda like using the nazi swastika for example. I could see how her or her management didn't foresee this, as the symbolism is still used within Japan.
45s 10th-Mar-2013 02:13 am (UTC)
Exactly. I'm surprised at the amount of japanese who are clueless to its meaning outside of Japan. I have friends that didn't learn what it meant until way later in life.

There is literally no education about this sorta thing and it's depressing this 'mistake' gets made over and over again.
b1gay4 10th-Mar-2013 02:51 am (UTC)
i still would have gone to her concert tbh
iheartkimura 10th-Mar-2013 04:01 am (UTC)
+1
askbask 10th-Mar-2013 02:54 am (UTC)
Sounds weird though because the reactions here were minor at most. Maybe they just want to shy away from potential conflict but cancelling it still seems like an overreaction, if that is the case, and we don't have official sources. Oh well, was hoping to go but I guess it'll have to wait.
senshicalico 10th-Mar-2013 03:09 am (UTC)
The amount of ignorance in this post re: the rising sun flag reflects current japanese education pretty well. A+ for consistency.
umbrellaphone 10th-Mar-2013 03:46 am (UTC)
Well, to be fair, symbolism like this didn't make it to textbooks that I grew up with. Sorry for not being aware (and wasn't blaming SK, just a "didn't get it"), but I will still feel disassociated with the symbol. Not to mention red/white + mt.fuji have been recycled so much for promoting anything Japan. Nonethless I agree Japanese education should step up on teaching history.

Edited at 2013-03-10 03:52 am (UTC)
exdream1999 10th-Mar-2013 03:49 am (UTC)
Honestly, this is going to keep happening because of the difference in how each country interprets the symbolism. Most countries only have a surface understanding of how Japan connects to the sun, and of course the use rising sun flag during wartime is going to their main understanding of that image. And it makes sense that they would have a negative image to them.

While in Japan that imagery goes backs thousands of years to when they chose to call themselves Nippon and to stop using the name China had given them. (Basically, it's a jab at China and boils down to a prince saying "You maybe the middle kingdom [what China's actual name actually means], but we're the land from which the sun rises [of course, what Japan means].)

So, it's a big ol' loop of clusterfuckery.
blazingeternity 11th-Mar-2013 05:52 am (UTC)
+1

Also don't get what's the big deal about canceling the show. If SK netizens dug up something to hate on this artist and she cancels the show... well I guess that's the SK fans' (who were supposedly offended) own problem. If they still want to see her anyway I'm sure she'll come at another date. If they don't wish to see her anymore then good for them the show was canceled.
mrstaguchi100 10th-Mar-2013 03:59 am (UTC)
Well, one can hardly do anything these days without upsetting Korean netizens in one way or another....

That rising sun thing has been in use eons before Japan had a goddamn flag, get used to it.
45s 10th-Mar-2013 04:24 am (UTC)
Yah and the swastika was used years before the Nazis. Do you not get cultural context and how it may differ between other cultures
cherylena 10th-Mar-2013 04:12 am (UTC)
Seriously, Koreans gotta stop getting butt hurt over everything. History is history.
Like, one of my Korean classmate got so pissed because some of us think that the design for Sony phones are a lot more creative and nicer than Samsung; and when we chose to buy Sharp over LG. And at the same time, he's a big fan of One Piece and Initial D. (>.<)
45s 10th-Mar-2013 04:23 am (UTC)
Yeah getting mad at the rape, murder, and torture of yr grandparents and their family is totes on the same level as picking a cell phone.
1gossip_girl 10th-Mar-2013 06:33 am (UTC)

She probably didn't know that she would offend other countries outside of Japan with the rising sun flag. She probably was not taught the meaning of it in school. When she was posing with that flag, she probably was just thinking about her fellow Japanese fans. But when she's about to embark on a World Tour, she found out the hard way what it meant to other people outside of Japan.
lip_glossy 10th-Mar-2013 07:02 am (UTC)

what about Taiwan and Hong Kong? they're not offended?

and people stop blaming S. Korea for being so sensitive..they lived under Japanese rules as a Japanese colony for 35+ years or so before they were freed...so please understand how they feel
citrine047 10th-Mar-2013 08:31 am (UTC)
as much as i dislike kyary, i dont see anything wrong with a rising sun motif, esp. if you're japanese. shrug.
breathless31 10th-Mar-2013 09:26 am (UTC)

Wow, really. Telling s. Koreans to stop being butthurt and get over it? jfc I forgot how stupid members on this site tend to be
miko_nyappy 10th-Mar-2013 10:07 am (UTC)
Yup. I'm shocked by some of these comments
akillarian 10th-Mar-2013 09:33 am (UTC)
Wow people, I'm not Korean and I know somewhat about the sensitivity when it comes to the rising sun flag.
Yama Take 10th-Mar-2013 09:40 am (UTC)
Japan is the largest music market in the world (by currency volume, you know, the only thing that matters to music producers) and South Korea most certainly is not. This likely accounts for Japan's inward rather than outward focus on music marketing (token efforts to the contrary notwithstanding).

I think she will survive this little mishap? just fine. Given the current state of political affairs, it may even be a positive in the mother land. Which is unfortunate as the two countries are more alike than different in many ways and in that volatile part of the world, a friend is good to have.

These two countries should be staunch allies (& former enemies), like GB & USA. keep dreaming...

I had no idea about the rising sun thing being such a charged image, thx to all for the intel on that topic.
age_of_green 10th-Mar-2013 02:30 pm (UTC)
"Let's be dicks about colonialism: Asia Edition!"

Would I be right in assuming that the rising sun flag would be similar to an American Confederate flag in terms of inappropriateness?
royu_kiyo 11th-Mar-2013 03:01 am (UTC)
Civil war within a nation =/= imperialism. I also doubt many Americans would get offended by it assuming they know what it looks like.
brucelynn 10th-Mar-2013 10:40 pm (UTC)
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Why did I even click this post .....
eishastan 10th-Mar-2013 11:54 pm (UTC)
jfc some of the comments... and "not being taught about it at school" is not a fucking excuse, i didn't had japanese history or any kind of asian history class and i know the meaning of it...

It's 2013! information is just a click away, and Kyary as a japanese should've known better, but she seems to be kinda stupid so i'm not surprised.
hisjulliet 11th-Mar-2013 02:14 am (UTC)
Everyone here that is saying that South Koreans needs to stop "being so butthurt" and "sensitive" - well shut the fuck up. You do not tell people who have been war victims of Japanese imperialism and family members of said victims to "stop being so sensitive" and to "get over it". It's fucking tacky, gross, and inhumane.

My grandmother is a victim of war from the bombing in Japan from the United States Air Force during WW2 when she was a little girl and lost everything. If someone told my grandmother to "get over it", I would punch them in the face. You just don't say that to a person who has suffered war. Period.
cuizy 11th-Mar-2013 06:48 am (UTC)
Chinese here.... Just wanna say yes that flag with the rising sun motif does burn my eyes. I remember first learning about it when my fav Chinese celeb wore it accidentally for a photoshoot.... needless to say she got a lot of flack for it and her career went on the downlow for a couple years....

Unfortunately I see it a lot in Japanese inspired stuff in the US too.... Like ok it can represent something else to Japanese ppl, but please keep it IN Japan. I don't think we should have to accommodate it in other countries when to us it only has one meaning, about the same as a swastika
glimmeringneon 11th-Mar-2013 07:17 am (UTC)
Please don't compare the Rising Sun flag to the Buddhist Swastika.

The Buddhist Swastika is one of the global symbols of Buddhism along with Buddha's Feet and the Mandala. It represents Buddha's heart.

Anyone that gets remotely offended by a Buddhist Swastika clearly does not know the difference between the Buddhist Swastika and the Nazi Swastika and should get themselves educated.

Eastern Religions shouldn't have to accommodate to Western perceptions of the Swastika.

EDIT:

I should also add, the Rising Sun is also the symbol of the Philippines, its been the symbol of the Philippines since ancient times and it even features on the flag also but its represented in the colour yellow.

My main point is that its just as important to be aware of the differences between symbols that promote peace and symbols that express hate.

Edited at 2013-03-11 07:29 am (UTC)
antifools 11th-Mar-2013 10:44 am (UTC)
Damn, didn't know KPP has a massive army ready to strike Korea. This is what those mandatory military service are for. Every Korean man, woman and child should arm themselves agains KPP and her army.

The gall of this woman trying to manipulate the sensitive people of Korea. Time to join forces with Kim up north. He's aching for war with anybody.
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