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11:30 am - 04/14/2014

Arashi's Kazunari Ninomiya: "Women who condemn goukon parties? What's up with that?"

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Kazunari Ninomiya is an indoor type of person -- with his cellphone rarely getting any calls and almost never dines out with other people. In contrast to that image, he's had more reports involving him with women than anyone else in Arashi. No one can imagine what sort of things he does in his private life, but he showed a glimpse of himself on radio.

Ninomiya answered a listener's question on the talk show BAY STORM (bayfm) about goukon parties. The question goes:
"My husband suddenly asked me if I would allow him to go to a goukon party. When I asked for the reason, he told me that he wanted to have fun and enjoy drinking with women he doesn't know. I became extremely mad. It's not jealousy and things like that, but it has really gotten on my nerves."
Ninomiya responded: "The guy just wants to drink with women he doesn't know. That's all there is to it. Can't he?", and defended goukon parties.

He then continued to say that the man probably just wants to have shallow and fun conversations with strangers, like "birthday guessing games! I'm not sure, but maybe he just wants to do things like that. Can you play that with your wife? Of course not! You already know one another's birthdays! Then can you play blood type guessing games? Of course not! You know that too! He probably just wants to enjoy things on that level.".

Ninomiya passionately continued that men would of course talk about more serious stuff like work and family matters with the wife, but explained that the man would probably want to talk about their favorite celebrities with other women.

"There are women who flat out condemn goukon parties, but to me, that's more of a concern. That actually makes me wonder what kind of goukon parties that woman has attended. When women say, 'I can't believe that you like going to goukon parties', I'd just think 'What is this woman's standard for goukon anyway?'."

Ninomiya was noticeably calm the beginning, but started to become more passionate, and eventually went on to sigh as he dissed women who do not approve of goukon parties.


Source video : radiodouga johnny




2 :2014/04/07(月) 14:04:59.40 ID:


Is Nino a goukon meister?


4 :2014/04/07(月) 14:05:43.85 ID:


Someone like this is in Johnny’s? "What’s up with that?"


5 :2014/04/07(月) 14:06:18.05 ID:


I want to ask what this guy is imagining in terms of what goes on at a goukon, though w


6 :2014/04/07(月) 14:07:04.05 ID:


Will you guys be able to defeat this man who was able to bang Masami Nagasawa and Nozomi Sasaki in their prime?
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7 :2014/04/07(月) 14:07:27.46 ID:


What's he on about? Of course the woman wouldn't want her husband going to a goukon since they're married.


8 :2014/04/07(月) 14:07:39.18 ID:


Will you approve it if your girlfriend or wife will say that she's going to a goukon?
Then what would this guy think of a woman who'd say "What's up with men who condemn goukon parties?".



10 :2014/04/07(月) 14:08:24.95 ID:


As expected of the man who's fine with a woman cheating on him ww


12 :2014/04/07(月) 14:08:41.60 ID:


Men who go to goukons with younger women will just hold their hands or take a peek at their boobs. What else are they going to do?


13 :2014/04/07(月) 14:08:44.54 ID:


Have you seen how much of a ham actor you are? "What’s up with that?"


15 :2014/04/07(月) 14:09:36.89 ID:


Shut up you horny chibi


17 :2014/04/07(月) 14:10:34.02 ID:


I get you guys for wanting to pounce on this Johnny's talent, but I think I understand Ninomiya's point...


19 :2014/04/07(月) 14:11:15.66 ID:


If this guy was just a regular person walking down the street -- and isn't with Arashi -- would everyone agree when someone points at him and says "That guy's such an ikemen! He'll be able to get into Arashi!".





27 :2014/04/07(月) 14:15:04.62 ID:


>>19
It's true, no one might even take a look at him if he was just a normal person. But still, there are a lot of instances where women surprisingly like men who just look normal, and whose faces are only 70 points, tops.




31 :2014/04/07(月) 14:16:55.55 ID:


>>19
That can also be said for Aiba and Ohno




51 :2014/04/07(月) 14:26:28.17 ID:


>>19
I don't think so. He won't even make you look twice in the first place.




83 :2014/04/07(月) 14:50:48.70 ID:


>>19
As early as this, we already have the best response in this thread





21 :2014/04/07(月) 14:12:54.69 ID:


There's a difference between a married man and a single man who attends goukons. Asking a single Ninomiya for advice is a bad idea in the first place.


22 :2014/04/07(月) 14:13:32.47 ID:


Err, are birthday guessing games even fun?


24 :2014/04/07(月) 14:14:29.38 ID:


This woman should just divorce a husband like that. And it's not just the husband, but it'll be for her own good if she just cut ties with people who can't understand how others feel.


26 :2014/04/07(月) 14:14:56.13 ID:


One should keep silent about going to goukons w


29 :2014/04/07(月) 14:16:15.07 ID:


A wife who consults an idol who's a player. A match made in heaven.


30 :2014/04/07(月) 14:16:18.97 ID:


Ninomiya's in the wrong here


36 :2014/04/07(月) 14:20:05.64 ID:


This is one form of cheating, so it's normal for women to condemn this.
But going to a goukon when you're already married? You must be stupid. People defending this are nuts.



37 :2014/04/07(月) 14:20:10.39 ID:


Doesn't this ugly squirt realize that women wouldn't even be paying attention to him if he wasn't from Johnny's?


38 :2014/04/07(月) 14:21:12.59 ID:


Men who attend goukons only have sex on their minds





74 :2014/04/07(月) 14:36:53.11 ID:


>>38
That's not always the case. There are men who just want to feel the excitement when a cute girl comes, or get to be with an ugly yet extremely interesting girl












44 :2014/04/07(月) 14:23:52.16 ID:


>>1
It wouldn't be a problem if the guy is single and didn't have a girlfriend, but guys who go to goukons without wearing their wedding rings are just disgusting. If you're married and you're planning on going to a goukon, wear a ring... I bet that the husband of this listener pretends to be single when he goes to goukons.









45 :2014/04/07(月) 14:24:07.67 ID:


Oh, the guy who looks like the tip of a beansprout


46 :2014/04/07(月) 14:24:33.92 ID:


I find those husbands who say "I'd rather go to a pachinko place than attend a goukon" when his wife asks him "Don't you want to have an affair? Don't you want to go to a goukon?" much cooler


49 :2014/04/07(月) 14:25:31.86 ID:


Men who go to goukons are just after the women whom they think they can easily get, and 99% probably aren't even thinking about marriage. When you consider that, you can say that women who condemn goukons are good at avoiding trouble.


53 :2014/04/07(月) 14:27:22.17 ID:


So this means that he would go to goukons just to have shallow conversations? I can't believe it.


54 :2014/04/07(月) 14:27:28.41 ID:


There's no way that you'd want your husband kissing in games like "your majesty" and take home women whom they'd knock up...


60 :2014/04/07(月) 14:31:16.43 ID:


People who wear boots at goukon parties are amateurs. While taking time removing your boots before entering the room, other guys will go ahead and sit beside the cute girls.





65 :2014/04/07(月) 14:33:26.49 ID:


>>60
Amateurs are the ones who sit beside girls. Professionals sit right in front of them. It's surprisingly hard to talk to them when you're sitting beside them.




67 :2014/04/07(月) 14:34:27.99 ID:


>>65
I didn't know that...




70 :2014/04/07(月) 14:35:35.47 ID:


>>65
Sitting right in front of them is too far. The best seat is the one that's closest to the door. You can even clean up the plates and order the food.




77 :2014/04/07(月) 14:37:35.00 ID:


>>70
That's the worst possible pattern. They'll keep using you as a utility man.





84 :2014/04/07(月) 14:51:07.92 ID:


This guy is a fake herbivore


88 :2014/04/07(月) 14:54:46.02 ID:


I don't care about young people going to goukons, but I'm not too sure about the older ones


94 :2014/04/07(月) 15:03:55.34 ID:


Goukons are opportunities for men and women to get to know one another. Women who get to be with this pipsqueak probably won't cheat on him before they get married because of his celeb status and wealth, but I think that whoever becomes his wife will go on and cheat behind his back.


95 :2014/04/07(月) 15:04:21.68 ID:


A husband who asks permission to go to a goukon? That's a pretty honest husband.


101 :2014/04/07(月) 15:08:42.75 ID:


It's so obvious that Ninomiya's been reeling in all these chicks at goukons


111 :2014/04/07(月) 15:24:12.47 ID:


This is the thread where people who have never even been to goukons talk about being in it.




Source: http://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/8709826/ , majide
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isinuyasha 17th-Apr-2014 09:46 pm (UTC)
Is he serious? I don't mind my bf talking with women etc. but if he came up to me one day and said. "Hey, I wanna go out with a bunch of women without you, because I can have more fun with them than with you" I'd kick him out faster than he could say Goukon.

Ninomiya passionately continued that men would of course talk about more serious stuff like work and family matters with the wife, but explained that the man would probably want to talk about their favorite celebrities with other women.

If you can't have fun conversations with your wife then maybe you married the wrong person. There's nothing that I couldn't talk with my bf about, no matter how ridiculous or serious it is. Of course people have secrets but if there's a whole part of your life you can't share with your significant other then I have bad news for you.

That actually makes me wonder what kind of goukon parties that woman has attended.

What Goukon parties have you been to Nino? There's a reason why many goukon have the exact number of male and female (not always but often enough). Also, don't play coy, we all know that the games played at goukons are often anything but innocent.

I'm seriously side-eyeing Nino on this. Although I also have to say that if you have to meet other women to talk about irrelevant stuff and play games than you really married the wrong woman or you're not giving your wife enough credit, I couldn't possibly comment as an outsider.

Edited at 2014-04-17 09:49 pm (UTC)
myharu 17th-Apr-2014 11:10 pm (UTC)
I actually agreed with a lot of the 2ch comments on this one and lol at "horny chibi"
tomoeicemaiden 22nd-Apr-2014 02:19 am (UTC)
I didn't have time to read the 2ch comments but LOL at "horny chibi" this will carry me for days XDDDD
raatkerani 17th-Apr-2014 11:33 pm (UTC)
Obviously, Nino is the wrong person to ask of this question. He scores no. 1 to succeed as a host in Ranking Derby. It's in his blood, and the hosts can see it clearly.Cannot blame Nino, for having that thought. His reason to get married is merely to reproduce and give grandchildren to his parents.

I wonder how strict or loose Johnny&A is when it comes to public image of their idols.
arasukishi 18th-Apr-2014 05:15 pm (UTC)
"His reason to get married is merely to reproduce and give grandchildren to his parents."

Yep. I think Nino's the wrong person to ask about this. I disagree with his opinion, but then he's always said that he wouldn't mind dating a cheater, sooooo.
jeugd1 18th-Apr-2014 12:30 am (UTC)
Shut up, Nino
koichiko 18th-Apr-2014 12:37 am (UTC)
Yeah, okay ... Nino is really the wrong person to ask this. He is a single guy who has never been married and has no idea how a normal relationship even works.
I get that he would wonder what a goukon-party looks like in her mind - but that comes off as somewhat naive. I'm not sure if he tries to just work in line with his image here, as in, "I've never been to a goukon were things were leaning on the sexual/cheating-side" but ... come on.

And really, a guy who needs to go out to have fun with other women really needs to look at his fucking life. And the wife needs to kick him out.
That's total bs.
Sure, a guy can have female friends, absolutely. But you don't need to go to a goukon to have a fun conversation.
wuhuan11 18th-Apr-2014 02:17 am (UTC)
"Oh, the guy who looks like the tip of a beansprout"


MY SIDES
londonshowers 18th-Apr-2014 02:32 am (UTC)
I laughed SO HARD at that and I love neeners

omg i still can't hahhah
dyan1219 18th-Apr-2014 02:22 am (UTC)
"Shut up you horny chibi" /dead

I wouldn't say outright that Nino is the wrong person to ask for a relationship advice, but, the guy has a record of interesting and at times, off-putting comments regarding relationships. IDK I feel like he was a really passionate guy in his early twenties, evident on the songs he write and compose. I think his failed relationships with women throughout the years have made his outlook on long-term romantic relationships dim and shallow. He has a point when he said that there' nothing wrong with talking ot partying with other women, but why do it in a goukon - that's aimed at single people looking for relationships? I don't know if Nino was being naive here.

tldr People should know more than to take Nino's comments too seriously.
inachan89 18th-Apr-2014 04:03 pm (UTC)
I agree,when he was younger he was more passionate. It's still sad to listen to yume,when he didn't manage to finish it. His vision about relationships seems to have turned pretty cold.
londonshowers 18th-Apr-2014 02:34 am (UTC)
Tbh is it surprising. Nino has said he would forgive his s/o if they cheated on him but I feel like that's because, out of arashi tbh, he's likely to cheat as well and would expect to be forgiven
katzsong 18th-Apr-2014 04:20 am (UTC)
Yeah, my thoughts as well. That's why he's the "boyfriend" material for me and my ichiban, although in real life I would just friend him because he's fun and laidback, but no way I would marry his type XD
falconbaby 18th-Apr-2014 05:15 am (UTC)
I'm commenting in regards of my friend, Crests, that hasn't been approved in this community yet.


Some of this does sound like something he might say, but there are 3 things about this that make it suspicious.
1. People listened to this and even other episodes haven't heard anything even remotely related to this.
2. The original article has apperently been deleted.
3. It came out shortly before his new drama started.
sadizumu 18th-Apr-2014 05:44 am (UTC)
I agree with all 3. It still seems a bit fishy to me.
bouncedatdick 18th-Apr-2014 05:47 am (UTC)
Disgusting, gross, and ugly. He's just perfect
ninomiy4r4shi 25th-Apr-2014 01:36 am (UTC)
This
mayura_news 18th-Apr-2014 08:24 am (UTC)
DX
I've started to dislike him lately and it's getting worse.

I'd like to see his reaction to the question "What if your wife wanted to attend a goukon party and have fun with other men than you?". I am pretty sure he would not be so enthousiast.
asth77 18th-Apr-2014 08:39 am (UTC)
May I ask why did you start disliking him lately?
a_cheshire_grin 18th-Apr-2014 10:49 am (UTC)
Wow, what a fucked up thing to say, Nino. >:(

I agree with this comment: It wouldn't be a problem if the guy is single and didn't have a girlfriend, but guys who go to goukons without wearing their wedding rings are just disgusting. If you're married and you're planning on going to a goukon, wear a ring... I bet that the husband of this listener pretends to be single when he goes to goukons.

If you can't enjoy being with the person you married or are in a relationship with, then maybe you chose the wrong person!
inachan89 18th-Apr-2014 11:35 am (UTC)
I'm now pretty sure this is a made up article.
I've listened to baystorm and he didn't talk about goukon at all,not even in older eps.Plus the original thread got deleted.

Ok he actually did say it,the ep was older than i thought,i guess they made a post out of it just because of his drama lol
I don't agree with his statement cause still,even if the guy didn't intend to cheat,of course it would annoy the wife.He's going to meet with other women to have fun.

Just a thing,if you listen to the vid he doesn't sound worked up at all,he took it very lightly,when he first read the beginning of the letter he laughed.Honestly after listening to it,it sounds more as if he was half joking,trying to help the guy out of it.
He could have done without the last line,"what kind of goukon did she attend?",though.



Edited at 2014-04-18 03:53 pm (UTC)
yoyokimono 18th-Apr-2014 04:08 pm (UTC)
As much as I like Nino, I find his opinion on such matters to be offensive and heartless. I don't know if he's jaded or he's being a guy but it's not very matured and respected of him to say such heartless things. I sometimes feel he doesn't think before he says these things, or if he does, then I can take it that he doesn't think much of women or relationship/love in general. If cheating is fine, then I've lost some respect for the man. As one grows up, I feel Nino is not maturing very well as compared to his bandmates, unless this is how Japanese men think that they are entitled to have fun even after being married is beyond me.
simplyshiny514 18th-Apr-2014 11:41 pm (UTC)
I think it's a combo of him not being very mature and the culture in Japan. I remember him saying something along the lines of how he thinks women should stay at home and cook for her husband. Which, unfortunately, is the prevailing idea in Japan. This, however, is prime example of his immaturity. I, for one don't mind if my guy hangs out with other girls. But if he tells me that he wants to hang out with women he doesn't know? That's sketch as hell. And if I went to a goukon with married guys? I'd be pretty turned off to them as well.
rosemaine 18th-Apr-2014 05:44 pm (UTC)
Chill~~ He's just another clueless man lol
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