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Hiromi x Aura Interview with TokyoWrestling

1. I introduced my girlfriend in my blog before coming out.

We interviews Model/DJ HIROMI on the subject of coming out in last month’s fashion magazine.Both her and her girlfriend were being much talked about, so the magazine interviewed HIROMI’s beloved sweetheart Aura, who is a university student and a model. We were able to talk about when they both started to fall in love, about being able to change because of each other, etc.,it became a heartwarming and fully loaded lovey-dovey conversation. The Tokyo Wrestling interviewer’s heart even skipped a beat because this pair was so pure and charming!

★HIROMI’s offical blog↓
http://ameblo.jp/hiromishinhata321/
★HIROMI’s Twitter account↓
http://twitter.com/hiromi_shinhata
★Aura’s official blog↓
http://ameblo.jp/weiss-aura/

★Girl Friend official site
http://www.goldfingerparty.com/


※Half Filipino/Spanish and Japanese model/DJ HIROMI and her half French and Japanese sweetheart, Aura. On March 26th, she was the DJ for the Girls Only event, “Girl Friend”

―― Recently you came out in a fashion magazine, what was the occasion?

HIROMI(referred as H later on):
Well~ How would I say this… Maybe, rather than saying it was an “occasion”, it was more about the timing. Up until now, I’ve only looked at myself in the “now”, I think that the timing came because of my feelings and the circumstances, so I just let everything go with the flow. I introduced Aura in my blog before being in a relationship with her, a little bit over a year ago. I put up a picture of our date. So, when an offer came from the magazine, I thought “It finally came!”. Well, I wasn’t that surprised, but I was extremely happy.


―― Before coming out, you didn’t hide the fact that you were in love with Aura from those around you, right?

H:
I was completely open and talked about it with people around me! Until I met Aura, I didn’t have a lot of self-confidence in love. When I tried to look at myself, as a human, I used to think of myself first and my companion second, but I noticed that there isn’t a time when someone’s eyes are only set on love. Because of that, you have to properly be considerate of your partner, you have to think and decide if you’re going to put this person first, no matter where I go now, when people ask if Aura is my friend, I’m able to properly answer them that she’s my lover. Since then, I naturally introduce her to everyone, if I ever have troubles concerning about Aura, I can talk about it normally with my friends. Now, I can speak fondly of her, I can speak about anything except our secrets.

―― Aura, did you also tell the people around you that you were in a relationship with a girl?

Aura(referred as A later on):
HIROMI is the first girl I’ve been in a relationship with. Even so, from the beginning, I didn’t hide it. After being together for a few weeks, I told my parents by phone. They were really surprised.

―― Do they accept it now?

A:
I don’t know his real intention but…, I think that my father accepts it.

―― Your father is French, right? They have same sex partnership laws, as the mayor of Paris is gay and came out, would this have an influence? (laughs)

A:
I wonder? (laughs)


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―― What kind of reaction did you get when you came out?

H:
I received warm comments and thank you messaged from everyone, more than I ever imagined. Things like “Your courage appeared, because of that, I’ll start walking forward too”, some of them were, “Thank you!”, there were people who thanked me. Of course, I feel happy when I receive these but, I just want to show “my true self”. So, if I can give encouragement to those who always watch me, even if it’s just a little bit of courage, then it should be me thanking you instead. Thank you all very much.

―― I can see that the both of you are totally and completely open, but have you ever experienced homophobia?

H:
We have. When the both of us were holding hands and walking on the roadside, a foreigner was persistent in asking, “Are you lesbian?”. Lately, I thought it would be troublesome if I lost my temper, so I just ignored him but, on the contrary, instead of me, Aura got seriously angry (laughs). Though she kept her cool while saying “So!?”, her serious face was kind of scary, and she was intimidating him by glaring at him with all her might (laughs). I’m glad that I’m being protected by a somewhat strong Aura, even though it’s a bit scary~ Just kidding (laughs). Also, once on my blog, I got a message with something like, “Ehh, you’re in a relationship with a girl? I’m shocked, I can’t believe it”. With these kind of people, it’s impossible to understand, if you become my fan, please don’t say those things. I didn’t think there would be a human at that kind of level, who would become distant with me just because I’m in a relationship with a woman.

―― Do you have any worries about being in a relationship a girl?

H:
I used to before but now I don’t. Maybe I did before I started dating Aura.

A:
Maybe before I started dating HIROMI. I’ve discussed it with various friends before, and they told me “Err, you being in love with a girl is impossible. Up until now, you’ve been in relationships with guys, right.” at that time I was a bit perplexed.

―― How did you overcome this?

A:
I overcame this with HIROMI. Maybe, inside of myself, I was a bit worried, because at first, there was a part of me that was unclear but, it was okay because the more we’re together, the more it changed into confidence. As I thought, it’s like the more you love and believe, the more your self-confidence you have, and your feelings will become stronger.

―― Do you feel good about coming out?

H:
I’m extremely happy. I got a message that said, “A few days ago, I confessed to girl that I’ve loved for a really long time. She rejected me but, it’s always been tough on me, so I’m glad that I finally told her”, I was able to help support someone a little bit. Thinking about that, so far, the fact that I came along wasn’t useless, I really feel like, “this is good~”.

―― Afterwards, did Aura’s friends accept it?

A:
About that. Some people stopped contacting me but, generally it was, “You’re dating a girl? What’s it like?” and there’s a lot of people who will still listen to me now too. What is it, at first, others weren’t very friendly with me either at school or at work and then eventually everywhere. And then, gradually, I narrowed down the people who didn’t understand, I think it was good that I did that.

H:
There are people who just don’t understand things from the start too.


2. I’m stunned when I look at Aura because she’s genuine.

―― What was the occasion that caused the two of you to meet and date?

H:
To be honest, I didn’t meet Aura in a lesbian place at all but an ordinary public place. I have no idea if this feeling was mutual, but when I took one look at Aura, I felt stunned. Even though I don’t usually greet someone first, this time I did. Still, if a chance appears before your eyes, get up and do something!! (laughs)


―― And from that, it was love at first sight!

H:
That’s right but, Aura doesn’t really want to admit it. Because it seemed gaudy (laughs).

A:
It really was gaudy (laughs). Like, I was thinking, she keeps looking over here while wearing sunglasses, then she came towards me, and greeted my friend. There was a “what do you think of me?” kind of feeling. Also, it seemed like she was talking to me with her eyes looking up (laughs) [It’s because Aura is taller than Hiromi by about 12 cm]

―― How did things develop after that?

H:
I approached her a little after, while looking at the situation. Even though I don’t drink usually, I thought that it would be good to encourage myself, drink a little and get a bit closer, drink again and get closer again… I repeated that and started moving little by little (laughs).

――Aura, did you notice that HIROMI was getting closer (laughs)?

A:
I didn’t notice even though she was getting closer, but I felt her gaze. But she was wearing sunglasses, so I thought that maybe I was misunderstanding, then for the moment, I was pretending not to notice. And then I think my friend said something like, “there’s someone who keeps looking at you”, and then that friend left.

H:
That right! Since her friend left, I thought, “now’s my chance!” and greeted her.
―― Aura, did you notice HIROMI’s feelings?

A:
Since she was glaring over to me a lot, I thought, “do I look weird?” and “is she judging and making fun of me?”.

H:
Whaaat, you thought of such detailed things!? But, I keep telling you, I wasn’t making fun of you!!! (laughs)

―― (laughs) After that, how did you greet her?

H:
I thought, “well, I have no choice but to go right”, and gave myself some pep talk. And then just at that moment, the friend Aura came with, left their seat, and I was like “Yessss!” (laughs). I thought that I should just clearly ask first and not care about the location, so I asked her, “are you into women?”.

A:
True, she didn’t start by asking for my name, she said, “can I sit here?” and sat down, then after she did that, she asked, “are you into women?” (laughs).

―― You were direct about it (laughs).

A:
I was surprised (laughs). I replied to her, “why?”. Then she asked me, “do you have a girlfriend?”, after I replied with “whaaat?”, she said, “huh, only boys then?”. I became like, “what is this about?”. I thought she was making fun of me again.

H:
I wasn’t used to talking to strangers, but since I was really interested in Aura, I was extremely nervous. I think that usually I’d start by asking her name but (laughs), at the time you could say I was already desperate, because I thought, if I don’t go talk to that person, she’s going to go home and I’ll regret it for sure, so I took it seriously. Since I thought Aura was a foreign model, we had a conversation in English for a while. But I was still mixing some Japanese in now and then. Since my English isn’t that good, I seriously put all my effort into it (laughs).

――Then, how did you make it so that you would start going out?

H:
I did my best to convey my feelings to her anyway. If I didn’t become assertive, I wouldn’t move forward, so I invited her, “let’s go on a date tomorrow!”. It was probably good that I was persistent, huh (laughs).


3. The start of your first date

―― It was the first time that a woman called out to you right. How did you feel about it?

A:
It was interesting. You could say it was kind of new and refreshing. But my friend was there too, so for the time, HIROMI was drinking a lot (laughs). My friend kept saying, “she’s totally into you, she’s into you” (laughs). I knew about her not drinking afterwards.

H:
This is horrible~ Aura (laughs). I was drinking severely, got smashed and finally I went somewhere! It was to the point that I couldn't walk by myself. It was the first time in my life that this has happened! (laughs). Even so, after I was smashed, I somehow asked Aura on a date for the next day, and she lightly let it pass by saying “okay okay” while smiling, right? (laughs). Well, I couldn’t believe that such a cute girl would say OK so easily, but I was still happy about it.


※HIROMI’s tattoos are stylish too (right)

―― Then, how was your first date?

H:
The day after we first met, when I opened my bag, I found a digital camera that I never saw before. I confirmed with all my friends that it wasn't theirs, I thought, “maybe it’s Aura’s?” so I called her. And then she said it was her digital camera, and Aura panicked, saying “don't look inside it no matter what!” and insisted about it (laughs). Since that ticked me off a bit, I rolled it in tape so that I wouldn't look inside (laughs). And then I went to the meeting place and she came on time, I was really happy that she kept her word.

A:
She came to give me back my digital camera but, when she actually came to the meeting place with packing tape wrapped around it, it was funny (laughs). But in the end, we didn’t go to a romantic place that day… (laughs).

H:
That’s right, I arrived late! I was too fired about it and it took too much time for me to prepare (laughs). Sorry for revealing this after such a long time~ Aura (laughs).

A:
Huh, well that’s what I thought so (laughs). The 2nd time we met, she was more energetic, I thought she put too much fighting spirit into herself (laughs).

―― (laughs) After the two of you met, how long after that did you start your relationship?

H:
We met in January of last year, and I think we started our relationship around the end of February.

―― For Aura, since HIROMI is your first female love, in what way were you aware that you liked her?

H:
That the thing I want to know the most! Aura doesn’t want to tell me! About that, tell us the details (laughs).

A:
(laughs) In regards of going on the first date, I was probably thinking about where we would go but, I became aware of it little by little. The more we went out, the more I liked her. HIROMI is the sort of “knows about all the shops” person (laughs). For example, there was a time when I put on medium heels for the day, and we went into a store. Then she said, “I’m going to go buy juice”, then when she came back, she bought me sandals. She said, “your feet hurt, right”. I’m really happy because she understands women’s feelings.

H:
It’s like, “can you compare boys with girls”, after all, around the start, I sensed it a bit. And then, for Aura, I wanted her to experience what it’s like to be in a relationship with a woman, that I can absolutely understand her feelings better than a man. For myself too, I rather settle down with a woman than a man, the biggest thing for me was to be “me”, without straining or inventing myself. That’s why, I wanted to give her the feeling of absolutely real love instead of just love from a man.

―― The two of you are living together now, right?

H:
After we got into a relationship, we started living together quite fast. Maybe, after around 3 months. We’re almost always together.


4. I want to hit you because I love you

―― What’s part of Aura do you like the most?

H:
It’s everything. Well, I can’t explain it. How can I say it…, My feelings of love for her now are more than the first time I met her, I love her even more today than I did yesterday! There’s a lot of things that I was able to do because I’m with Aura. Because it’s Aura, we were able to come this far together. My romance with her is the longest one I’ve had up to now.

―― And Aura, what part of HIROMI do you like the most?

H:
That’s right, I haven’t heard about it yet! Try to tell us (laughs).

A:
(laughs) Maybe the fact that she has a sense of living. Well, I like the most that she has good points and bad points too. Speaking without thinking about everything is a really good thing. Her brain and mouth work at the same pace, so there’s no time she'd lie, you know? That’s why she doesn’t calculate things, and I like the fact that she doesn’t lie.

H:
It wasn’t the case before. When I met Aura, there are really a lot of parts of me that changed. Because I used to be a liar, I’m surprised myself that I don’t tell any lies now. Because Aura is really genuine, I think that because she looks at me with honest eyes that I can’t hurt her. It’s like, I don’t want to trouble her with my stupid lies. That why I say everything honestly now.


―― I read on HIROMI’s blog that when you fight, Aura is the stronger one (laughs).

H:
She was strong (laughs). Already from the start, she knocked me down completely. Since Aura wouldn’t let me say what I wanted to, and said that I considered her as a man before, I wanted to retaliate, or like, I wanted to hit her with all my strength. That’s why when we fight, I snap. After that, I want to say, “I like you a lot” [daisuki] or like, “I love you” [aishiteru].

From the start, if i say, “I love you” [aishiteru], you’ll be surprised, but I’ll be surprised too (laughs). I think I probably haven’t said it yet but, I can say it if I really love someone, and on the contrary, that feeling doesn’t get delivered with just the words “I love you” [aishiteru]. At first, we said in English, “Love u! Love u too!” [Japanese translation follows] but it’s “light”, after all, “I love you” [aishiteru] has more weight, now, with that way, I can express my feelings. That’s why I want to continue saying it. Did I say something weird?

A:
No (laughs).

―― So now, Aura became strong?

A:
Instead of becoming strong, I would say that I changed. The way we fight is different than from before.

H:
But Aura, she’s calm. I always think that she has more to say.

―― What kind of things do you fight about?

H:
It’s about stupid things. But it’s me who make small things into a big deal (laughs). Things like, “there’s something wrong, right, I’m not good enough, am I” (laughs). But I think if we fight thoroughly, then we’ll both be refreshed. Because Aura, if she snapped far enough, she’d feel quite refreshed… (laughs).

A:
Only if you’ll understand me (laughs).

H:
And then, you reconcile right away. Say something like, “sorry about earlier”.

―― What do you do for an ordinary date?

A:
Recently I think we’ve been staying near our house.

H:
We have old lady type of dates (laughs). It’s like, we walk while holding hands, and then we take a rest. Then, we go to TSUTAYA [music store]. I like a gentle type of feeling. For my relationships up to now, I’ve been really fussy about the other person’s needs but, Aura is relaxed. It’s okay if we don’t really do anything, like we don’t have to worry too much. I can always feel happy because I can be with Aura naturally.


5. Love is free

―― HIROMI, other than being a model, you also DJ, what kind of music genre do you play? You’re also mixing at Girls Event, “Girl Friend” ,right? (※ The next GF is on 5/28)

H:
Electro, house and the like, mainly those with a 4x bass drum beat. It’s quite intense while DJ-ing, always after spinning parts of my body hurt (laughs). That’s why, I plan to do things normally, but I become unaware of everything, when I’m going home, I think about how much the event was fun, then in the morning, I understand how much my body hurts (laughs). For Girl Friend, all of the guests are women, I’ve been wanting to play there since before, so I’m happy that I can play there.

―― Aura is coming to Girl Friend too, right?

H:
Yes, of course. Since I taught Aura how to DJ a bit, this time, we might play together.

―― In the future, it’ll be really popular if you DJ together as a couple!

H:
That seems fun! Once, we already did a back to back [means 2 DJs playing on 2 turntables] at home (laughs). Someday, I want to make my own studio with Aura! I hope that Aura will be more active in receiving my lessons but, my thoughts about that don’t get through to her easily~.

A:
Ok ok, I’ll do my best!


―― Are the both of you picky in regards to fashion? The both of your looks are quite different, right?

H:
Basically, other than things that I think are nice, even though you can’t just pick them up with your eyes, if you notice, recently I occasionally wear clothes that Aura likes (laughs). Her taste and mine are the exact opposite, it’s like I don’t have any casual wear, if the western styled clothes suit my partner, my heart’s going to skip a beat. Ah, well except for flower prints and such (laughs). When I first met Aura, she wore a plain t-shirt, I thought, “she’s really a foreigner huh~”. Do you get it?

―― What do you mean by simple? Foreigners wear simple clothes when compared to Japanese people, right.

H:
That’s right. But, even though it’s simple, when you look it it, it’s somehow stylish, as one would expect from a foreigner! I’m envious (laughs).

A:
Is that so? I check out HIROMI quite a lot but. Sometimes she says like, “aah, I don’t understand the way you wore those clothes at all”, and suddenly give me a strict fashion check, it scares me (laughs).

H:
I work in the fashion industry so, after all, I might be picky with it. But, for me, instead of being stylish, personality is more important. That’s why sometimes, I’ll say, “that’s not Aura, right” (laughs). But, on the other hand, the day when Aura wears clothes that I like, I’ll be a paparazzi! Aura’s makeup always really has this light feeling. That’s why sometimes I do it for her (laughs). More like, Aura does more womanly things than I do! (laughs)

A:
Recently, my makeup has been even more light, even more than now, I was almost bare faced. But when I go out with HIROMI, I think “I’ll put on a little more”, and I suddenly look different.

H:
It’s like, I’ve been wanting to pull out Aura’s good qualities so I’ve been saying various things since the start! I understand Aura’s good points the best, I’m confident about that!! (laughs).

―― Does Aura say anything about HIROMI’s fashion?

A:
I always tell her that simple is nice. My favourite is, a grey t-shirt with regular tennis sneakers. I like style that’s fresh and clean. Because, simple being suitable, I think that it suits anything. And, for example, when we went on a date to TSUTAYA [music shop], HIROMI said, “I tried to wear something that Aura likes today”, it made me happy.

―― By the way, is there a lesbian that the both of you respect?


H:
The model Freja Beha [Danish model]. I love her too much. She’s by far the best! I admire her neutral type of aura.

A:
I like her too.

―― She’s attractive, isn’t she! In relation to your own sexuality, it seems that you haven’t announced it officially. In Japan’s fashion industry, are there any other female same-sex couples around you?

H:
I haven’t really heard about it. But, I have been told things like, “Maybe I might be into women”. But it's like they say “they have interest in”, and I feel like they’re making fun of me. But they say, “eh, I’m not like that myself but, I just want to try it out a bit”, and that it’s out of pure curiosity. I think it’s rude to use the word, “try out”, I think it’s like they’re playing with people’s feelings.

A:
Ah, I really understand that.

H:
For now, it would be nice if more female same-sex couples came out.

―― Lastly, do you have a message for the readers?

H:
Thank you very much to everyone who read until the end. If you like someone, if you love someone, that’s not for someone else to decide, it’s something you decide by yourself. Listen to your heart’s voice more. You are you for yourself, and, in your own way, isn’t it good for you to believe more and more in the path that you chose yourself? “Love is free”.

In my blog, I receive a lot of consultations about things like, “I felt a shock because of a girl but, am I falling in love?”. I think that, the moment that you felt that shock, the moment you have that for yourself, is the start of love. Unless you understand it yourself, I think you won’t understand anything else. If you don’t face yourself, I think you can’t be courageous. Because, you might have some doubts, but, be courageous, and I want to tell you to “Live your life”(= Live your own life how you like). This is an expression that Aura uses a lot in English. It’s simple words but, there’s a weight to them. If you care about every single thing around you, you won’t be able to get used to things. I think you should go through a life that you think is good. Homosexual love isn’t a crime. Loving someone is an instinct of a human. Wanting to sleep with someone is a natural feeling. That’s why, it has nothing to do with homosexuality. And, I think that loving someone is the most beautiful expression a human has. You don’t need to be scared! When you love someone, it’s important to believe in your emotions.

A:
I agree!



Translation by honeyhiyo at Jibunrock, original source

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