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8:44 am - 08/20/2012

Video: violent anti-Japanese protests across China

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“Defend the Diaoyu Islands to the death,” one banner said. Another said, “Even if China is covered with graves, we must kill all Japanese.”

Another photograph showed a handwritten sign taped to the entrance of Suning, a popular electronics store, telling customers it was no longer selling Japanese products.

Some protests appear to have turned violent. According to several postings, demonstrators on Sunday attacked sushi restaurants or other businesses perceived to have a Japanese connection. Several photographs said to be from Shenzhen, across the border from Hong Kong, showed what appeared to be damaged or overturned cars — most of them Japanese models — as well as several police vehicles.

The demonstrations appeared to be sanctioned and chaperoned by the police, who generally prohibit public protests unless they suit the needs of the Communist Party.


hisjulliet 21st-Aug-2012 12:34 am (UTC)
Raging WAR over some fucking rocks?

45s 21st-Aug-2012 02:44 am (UTC)
tbh, the last time japan took over some rocks, most of east asia suffered immensely. this is way more complicated than war over some rocks. there's a ton of old wounds here that haven't healed. japan is guilty feeding this sentiment as the action on the apologies came way later than they should (apologies from officials, funds for survivors, etc). on top of that, i don't think other countries felt that the apologies were all that sincere, especially when you consider japanese textbooks up until recently glossed over japanese war crimes, and a ton of other crap. china and korea definitely remember bc they still have survivors.

it's a shitty situation, and i don't doubt that opportunistic nationalists in china and korea are definitely taking advantage of japan's passivity and reluctance to bring up these issue again. japan kinda needs to be vocal and assertive in reassuring these people that they have no more more imperialist desires to lay claim to anymore land.

i doubt that'll happen though because they need them votes. and nutjob nationalists in japan vote in droves. believe me!
hisjulliet 21st-Aug-2012 03:39 am (UTC)
Okay, I'm going to be extremely honest and blunt when I say this but, at the end of the day, these islands, are /just/ pieces of land - rocks - pretty much.

I am fully aware of these countries(including the rest of western and southern Asian countries) past bloodshed and hostility. I understand why Chinese people are upset and angry about Japan's reaction(or, non reaction) to past actions towards their country.

But, what I do NOT understand, is that these people - as in the ones in the video - are trying to wage war over some pieces of land in the middle of the ocean. Forget that they believe it was originally their land centuries ago to begin with, these people were not even born when Japan's invasion took place during WW2. I find that they are using their criminal and barbaric behaviors as an /excuse/ to hate Japan as a whole - including the innocent Japanese who are in no shape or form involved in this political dispute at all - for their past actions towards their country. They are aiming their hate towards a country where they /personally/ shouldn't. Because these people were not there to witness all the horrible things that happened during WW2. And before WW2.

I also don't find Japan's apology sincere, but it is better than no apology at all. At least Japan is finally trying to own up to their past crimes towards other countries by adding them in school books. Japan still has a long way to go,(with them /still/ trying to claim territory where they shouldn't) but at least they are moving forward.

I again understand how the survivors of Japan's past crimes are hostile and unforgiving, but I can't excuse these people, even if they are the sons and daughters of the victims. Because I am the granddaughter of a war victim myself, but that does not mean that gives me an excuse to hate a country will all my energy and time, when that said country didn't personally do any wrong towards me during that time period.

These protests, in my opinion, only causes animosity and bitterness, instead of forgiveness and unity. There is absolutely nothing positive to be gained from these strikes.

Edited at 2012-08-21 03:42 am (UTC)
yaoilicious_53 21st-Aug-2012 03:53 am (UTC)
"Because I am the granddaughter of a war victim myself, but that does not mean that gives me an excuse to hate a country will all my energy and time, when that said country didn't personally do any wrong towards me during that time period."

I'm Kuwaiti, and I don't hate Iraq. Just in case you don't know, what Japan did to China or Korea is NOTHING compared to what Iraq did to Kuwait. (Which is why I always side-eye anti-Japan people.)

Hating on a country isn't going to help this world become a better place.
hisjulliet 21st-Aug-2012 04:04 am (UTC)
I'm sorry, but this is not a war crime contest. War crimes are horrible and disgusting, period. It can happen anywhere. Pain is equal and only has one definition.

I am not disregarding what you told me, but all war crime victims suffered more than their share in their lifetime, and It is very rude to the victims to compare what country did the most damage to another.

Edited at 2012-08-21 04:06 am (UTC)
yaoilicious_53 21st-Aug-2012 05:56 am (UTC)
My point was not to compare. Adding an example has a purpose that is different from comparing.
I was saying that it's wrong to hold grudges and hatred for something that happened years ago.
Why can't they learn to forgive? We already forgave Iraq eventhough that war was only 22 years ago. Besides, the people have nothing to do with it. Why can't Chinese or Koreans understand that the current Japanese have nothing to do with WW2?
45s 21st-Aug-2012 04:12 am (UTC)
i honestly don't even think it's over land at this point but just to like, to be mad at japan.

like i said, nutjob nationalists are definitely feeding into this fear and making it worse. i think it's getting more traction now in china as the economy there isn't as good now. more unemployed students in debt and laid off workers to come to protests. :-/
hisjulliet 21st-Aug-2012 04:16 am (UTC)
That's why I said they are using Japan's past crimes against their country as an "excuse" to do all these nasty and horrible things.

These people are a lost cause, in my opinion.
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