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10:57 am - 09/09/2012

Koki's Nazi uniform causes controversy

Tanaka Koki, member of the popular Johnny's idol group, KAT-TUN, has been stirring up some controvery recently as his new PV "Black or White" was leaked on to the internet. So what's the big deal? Some netizens are upset that Koki is dressed in full, Nazi uniform. The full PV can be viewed here.

To be specific, Koki sports the notorious SS black uniform, which was used from 1932 to 1934 in Nazi Germany. The SS uniform was worn specifically by people who worked in concentration camps and closest to the Third Reich. The PV features him dancing in the Nazi garb, while switching between scenes of him being experimented on. The SS was also notorious for conducting horrendous "medical experiments" on many Jews in concentration camps.

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ylunio 9th-Sep-2012 05:33 pm (UTC)
Yes, there are medical experiments in this video, just like X-men's Wolverine, and Koki is dressed like Street Fighter's M. Bison (or Vega if you are Japanese)...

Oh, please... ''=_=
bleed_peroxide 9th-Sep-2012 06:01 pm (UTC)
I'm guessing the fact that it's connected to the Nazi's medical experiments went right the fuck over your head?
mikimiaw 9th-Sep-2012 05:37 pm (UTC)
XDD....seriously...i watched this PV twice...what i can comment is.."I Don't Un...."
firstly I dun care about d so call Nazi uniform thingy..cuz...a lot of ppl out there nowadays wearing different army what if the PV accidentally make Koki wear Nazi uniform....seriously for me i dun care~~... ;) dun forgot he previously wear uniform during CHAIN concert performing his Dangerous Cat~~ =.=
I Don't Un is tat d overall story of d PV...even d music is an Rockish song..quite difficult to create a PV...
what i un is Koki feeling...because..Koki is d 1st 1 who make his own Solo PV...he must feeling pressure & he does mention he totally no idea..till d last minute spark~~...anyway..Koki try his best already~~^^

Peace Y^.^
gacchiri 9th-Sep-2012 09:01 pm (UTC)
what is this comment
Tanja Krueger 9th-Sep-2012 05:39 pm (UTC)
It's not a full SS uniform. It's just a similar style.
And I understood the PV like it's not 'him' it's a kind of 'robot' who get experiments.
The Iron Cross is still today a medal for our 'Bundeswehr'.
Our 'Reichsadler' is still also an important symbol for us - he wear it WITHOUT 'Hakenkreuz' (swastika).
Yeah, it has a similar style, but .. who cares?
I don't even care and I'm German. LOL
But yeah, when I say it I'm Nazi, like always, because I'm German. It's still in the heads of too many people. I don't say people should forget about it but people should finally calm down. It's so annoying.

I don't think Koki wants to be disrespectful or something like that. And at least when I first saw it I didn't think "Oh! He cosplays a Nazi!"
I think the meaning behind it is more 'Good vs. Bad'. But I don't understand the lyrics now.. Can somebody here says what the song is about who is better in Japanese then me?

But yeah, it's always like that. Complaining, complaining. Gosh. There are so many PV's with people in uniform. It's so tiring already.. but yeah. Should I now complain every American PV where someone is a soldier? Calm down. It's so tiring.
uledy 9th-Sep-2012 05:48 pm (UTC)
But yeah, it's always like that. Complaining, complaining. Gosh. There are so many PV's with people in uniform. It's so tiring already

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seelenlicht 9th-Sep-2012 05:45 pm (UTC)
I wasn't even speaking about that people should get over the second world war because this is impossible,but more that they should get over the fact that Jp. ppl OFTEN use something like this ins pv's and other stuff without giving it a second thought.
Tanja Krueger 9th-Sep-2012 05:48 pm (UTC)
Well.. but this here has the topic "Good vs. Bad" - so even if you THINK about it, it hasn't a back background. Because at the end the 'Good' can escape and fight against the Bad.
artcika 9th-Sep-2012 05:52 pm (UTC)
lol looks like only GACKT can get away with mimicing nazi uniform & turned himself into a cyborg due to some experiments of the army leaders....or something...

Tanja Krueger 9th-Sep-2012 05:55 pm (UTC)
Made my day.. XDD
supermusicmaker 9th-Sep-2012 05:52 pm (UTC)
off with his head tbh
muzikiz4evaluv 9th-Sep-2012 05:53 pm (UTC)
F*cking trifling not even gonna watch.

VERY poor costume choice/theme. i think the designer and whoever thought of this concept needs to do they damn homework or maybe just given a quick history lesson so shit like this can be prevented.

wearing the costume is ignorant/insensitive and inappropriate and i'm i know damn well koki knows the history behind it so no excuses.

artcika 9th-Sep-2012 06:03 pm (UTC)
also i've got to say, people get overworked with stuff as simple as that, c'mmon it's just a stupid PV, it probbaly was not even hos own idea....also a costume is just a costume..... jeeez... >_> plus at least is HAS a theame....cuz most of the j-pop/rock vids just have pretty guys dancing/playing around in a studio with random background.
calcetinita 9th-Sep-2012 06:10 pm (UTC)
I will limit myself to one comment. Anything else would be bad for my blood pressure and this case is very clear, there isn't even room for discussion.

Let's break it down: Koki, nazi uniform, experiments, good wins in the end

Koki is an idol and he surely isn't in a position to micromanage every detail in this video or the rest of career. But he always has a choice to say no. Any discussion about this needs to start with the acceptance that Koki is a free man and that he agreed to this.

Nazi uniforms. It's not a uniform from Wolverine. It's not a uniform from a movie or game. It's the uniform of mass murderers and while they left out the red band, the attention to detail is astounding. Someone wanted this to look like a SS uniform. Don't deny it.

Experiments on humans were done in concentration camps. This alone wouldn't suffice as a reason to raise eyebrows but coupled with the uniform it's a very clear picture. One that unfortunately makes the common excuse of "he didn't know" very unbelievable.

Good wins in the end. And everyone is happy. Everyone except those who know that the real victims of nazis couldn't just tear at their chains and have a dance-off with the "herrenrasse". To ignore this in order to end a music video on a feel good note is probably the height of ignorance.

This video is an embarrassment. It doesn't make Koki a nazi but it makes everyone who defends it a very suspect person. For the German anons who feel attacked, the way to learn from the past is to accept what happened and not deny it. Nobody is attacking you. This whole thing isn't about you. It's about someone using a very sensitive subject to promote a CD release. He is dancing in a nazi uniform to make money. He and everyone who worked on that video didn't care enough about the real history and the real people affected by it to look for another costume. People have every right to be shocked, disgusted and disappointed with this. If it doesn't cause you any emotional harm and you like the PV as it is, then have fun with it. But don't try to deny the nazi symbolism in it or the very real reasons why people are upset. That doesn't help Koki or KAT-TUN. That just makes you look bad.
cherrycoloured 9th-Sep-2012 06:29 pm (UTC)
A+ comment.
liime_arix 9th-Sep-2012 06:14 pm (UTC)
I can't with people brushing this off as nothing. I'm sure you're also going to ignore the fact that Japan has an unnatural fascination/love for nazi uniforms and 'kawaii Hitler' items. Just because it happens all the time doesn't mean that it's right, in truth it's insulting to those who were victims of Nazi Germany. All of this just shows that Japan does a crappy job in educating their people about WW2 and their role in it.
thefortysecond 9th-Sep-2012 06:36 pm (UTC)
This is going to be my only comment on this post because I need to stay the FUCK away from shitfests like this, but thank you for saying this.
gingerrangerftw 9th-Sep-2012 06:24 pm (UTC)
This offends me.
Come at me "calm down it's only a costume" brigade! I don't care how many people do this or whose fault it was. The fact that the uniform is being seen as something (if even only aesthetically) pleasing just feels wrong to me.

It's likely my perception IS skewed coming from a Jewish background with relatives affected by the holocaust, but wow, I'm allowed to be offended, right? To me, it's little different from dressing up as a notorious modern day murderer or rapist.

I am NOT saying this is Koki's fault. I am saying this was badly thought out. And yes "BUT IT'S MEANT TO SYMBOLISE EVIL!! BUT OTHER BANDS HAVE DONE IT!!!" but that doesn't make it inoffensive or okay. It reflects something so evil, that it should not be used to make anyone money, or in any way that could be construed as endorsing or positive to anything the SS stood for.
vivibm 9th-Sep-2012 06:47 pm (UTC)
I don't understand why people think it's a "poor" choice of concept.
Of course it can't be take lightly, BUT there are 2 characters, very differents.

Because it's a difficult past, we shouldn't do things to denounce it ?
Because KOKI DENOUNCES NAZISM and experiments, not the contrary !

Maybe his costume is too evident, and he should have just play a part of a "dictator" or totalitarian guy, but don't overeact please.

'Cause this man is against nazism, the PV prooves it.
The "black" guy is "losing" in the end after all
mele_3_4 9th-Sep-2012 07:01 pm (UTC)
Everyone understands what theme the pv is attempting, the issue is that war is not a movie and it isn't a matter of good triumphing over evil. Even though it wasn't the intent, it cheapens the pain and suffering of the victims of a very real regime. There was no busting out of chains and overcoming the bad guys for them. If the message had been conveyed through using a fictional regime then he could have had his good vs evil pv without all of the wank. I don't think this pv makes Koki a bad person but this pv certainly is not ok.
javilind 9th-Sep-2012 07:06 pm (UTC)
I understand people who feel uncomfortable with the nazi topic, specially when it comes to people who has familiars who went through it. I really understand if they don't like the PV.
But the PV is about a "Good vs Bad" story, where the analogy for bad is the nazi captain and all. The PV is not trying to praise the nazi regimen... so I don't understand why should the PV be banned. Is it a taboo the nazi holocaust?? do we live in a world where there's taboo topics?

Anyway, I'm not trying to bash on people who feel offended, I just think the staff of the PV were not trying to offend anyone.

(Those who I DO NOT understand, is the people saying that Koki is just trying to get attention... Do you even know him to treat him like that?? He's the sweetiest in KAT-TUN, really a beautiful guy ~.~, he doesn't deserve that words :C)
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hisjulliet 10th-Sep-2012 06:09 am (UTC)
senpai didn't mean it?
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