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10:57 am - 09/09/2012

Koki's Nazi uniform causes controversy

Tanaka Koki, member of the popular Johnny's idol group, KAT-TUN, has been stirring up some controvery recently as his new PV "Black or White" was leaked on to the internet. So what's the big deal? Some netizens are upset that Koki is dressed in full, Nazi uniform. The full PV can be viewed here.

To be specific, Koki sports the notorious SS black uniform, which was used from 1932 to 1934 in Nazi Germany. The SS uniform was worn specifically by people who worked in concentration camps and closest to the Third Reich. The PV features him dancing in the Nazi garb, while switching between scenes of him being experimented on. The SS was also notorious for conducting horrendous "medical experiments" on many Jews in concentration camps.

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cuizy 10th-Sep-2012 03:57 am (UTC)
Why go as far as nazis? He could've just dressed up as a Japanese soldier..... They did lots of medical experiments in WWII too :P
stole_away 10th-Sep-2012 05:20 am (UTC)
hmm okay. lol
kameshotajunki 10th-Sep-2012 05:54 am (UTC)
I start thining that journalists hate KAT-TUN =.= they seems not care about Koki's PV but more like picked something to bash him. Koki is rock! I love his style, and he would look hotter if he bold again
seelenlicht 10th-Sep-2012 06:24 am (UTC)
This isn't even an article which comes from Japan. It doesn't even have a source, I thin the op wrote it? And it won't ever come in any tabloid because Japanese don't care about it.
hisjulliet 10th-Sep-2012 06:03 am (UTC)
The Nazi/Hitler fetishism in Japan is truly disgusting. Seriously, when will Japanese people realize that Hitler did not include them in his "perfect world"?
hisjulliet 10th-Sep-2012 06:07 am (UTC)
and some people in this thread lack a HUGE amount of sympathy. Please seek help.
breathless31 10th-Sep-2012 06:48 am (UTC)
The senpai didn't mean it is strong in this one
I always knew JE fandoms were stupid, but this post takes the cake for me.
gingerrangerftw 10th-Sep-2012 07:31 pm (UTC)
*weeps for humanity*
haruna_io 10th-Sep-2012 03:25 pm (UTC)
Stalin killed 20 milion russians but seems like they are not worth be mentioned or remembered. Seriously... Better if this is my last comment.
mitsubachiii 10th-Sep-2012 03:56 pm (UTC)
Really now?
I know that it's NG to use Nazi-stuff and all, but isn't the PV showing clearly that he is destorying the bad guy aka. Nazi uniform? It's okay to make movies about it, but it's not okay to make a PV that maybe deals with the World War II as a theme? I don't get it... It's brave of Koki to try doing this, but I'm also not 100% fond of this...
misselin 11th-Sep-2012 02:04 am (UTC)
Well, I live in Japan currently (from Sweden originally and have a bachelor exam in world history) and as an European I have alot of friends who are both jews and lost people in the holocast, as I have friends who also is German and is tired of being accused of this whole matter still).

Aaaanywho, I'm not going into that matter now, I wrote a 45 pages long thessis about it (mostly about Japan and their "blame" but with connections to Germany.)

My only point here is, in my school I have people saying they know who Hitler was but really they have no idea. Half of my class have no slightest idea who Hitler is, they have never heard his name before. The other half have heard his name but is not quite sure of who he is. "He like... Was a murderer, no?". One guy in my class in fact, loves to draw. And he spends a whooole lot of time drawing the swastika everywhere. In his books, on his hands, on pretty much everything. Me and my other Swedish friend got unconfortable with that and simply asked him "do you know what that stands for?" and he was like "yes, it's Hitler!". We continued
-"And you know who Hitler is?",
-"And you know what he did?",
-"You know the fact that he killed people in the most aweful ways imaginable?"
-"He's cool."
-"Well, I can't be friends with you anymore."

Now, I have also been researching and writing a whole lot about history in writing, mostly in school books. What differs them from each other? Every country have their own way to paint their history, especially the world wars. To make one huge matter short, countries that is "in blame" for the ww2 have been pushed to write a whole lot about what they did during ww2 in their school books, to pay for their guilt. The other countries or people, the ones who suffered during the war, their history writing is not as "teaching" as the "blame countries". This one classmate is from China, so all he know about ww2 is that the japanese invaded China and was horrible. What's said here is that alot of history get's lost in here. "Blame countries" writes about what they did and the others is teached "poor us". In Chinas history books there isn't much space left for the horrible things China have done in their history and even in ww2. They were not nice either. Also, the war is starting to be far away for current generations. Meaning, the war isn't something they remember, or even can relate to, so their feelings towards the war is more like a story, than real history. Young generations of the "blame countries" that is teached about how horrible they have been is starting to feel "Why can't we get pass this, why do I have to bare the guilt of something that someone stupid did before I was even born?". Some young even feel the need to be rebellic and say no too careful things only to make a point that they don't want to excuse themselves for something they did. This is a big problem in both Japan and Germany. I have seen many top designer clothes in Japan who have the red armband with the swastika on it e.t.c. This is not how teaching history should be. But it's hard to balance history writing in school books. Every country think so differently. It also have alot to do with world ecomony, countries with high power won't exactly teach about the horrible things they did during ww2 or any other historical event.

To summon up, I simply think this about Koki's PV.

1. He nor the video team have not read world history longer than high school level.
2. They simply have no relation to Europe or Hitler (it's simply too far away, history always works this way, you get teached about what is close to you, same with news) so they have no relation to Hitler other than "he was bad, he killed people, it was horrible". Like, how much do the general European or American know about all the horrible things communism have done to people? The Cultural Revolution in China? All they know about that is "it was bad, alot of people died, it was horrible".
3. They want to hit people right in the face, make something you will remember. They indeed intend to create SS out of Koki, but I don't think they get the emotions people close to that part of the history will recieve while seeing it. Or maybe they kind of get it and only want to be "rebellious".
bleed_peroxide 11th-Sep-2012 11:34 pm (UTC)
Cue my jaw dropping with the guy drawing the swastika everywhere and being totally cool with Hitler. The fact that he knows what the man did and thinks he's "cool" is fucking terrifying.
aya_sama3000 14th-Sep-2012 10:22 pm (UTC)
i could care absolutely less about koki and this pv [cant bother to watch it since it doesnt interest me] but i will say this:
people who are offended by it - coolbeans your offended, you have the right to be

people who aren't offended by it - coolbeans you have no problems with it, you have the right to not be offended by it

as for me - i like the basic outline of military suits so strip the emblems and everything but the chain and the standard buttons of the suit and it would be a sharp looking suit to me
vampyrrep 16th-Sep-2012 12:19 am (UTC)
mrstaguchi100 16th-Sep-2012 07:23 am (UTC)
holy crap....

leave it to koki to be controversial but seriously it's not like he's endorsing the nazis at all so why give him all the flack? the 'black' side lost in the end anyway...
sammet 20th-Sep-2012 09:26 pm (UTC)
brucelynn 19th-Sep-2012 10:11 pm (UTC)
I missed this post

Oh Arama never fails to bring the idiots out of the woodwork in these type of discussions .....
sammet 20th-Sep-2012 09:25 pm (UTC)
People defending this shit and apologizing are pathetic. I love Koki as much as the next person, but get a fucking grip and deal with the fact that he, too, can be an asshat. There is no denying that the uniform is inspired by SS - it would have been ambiguous if he didn't wear symbols directly related to Nazis. I don't even see the fucking need to discuss whether or not it's there seeing how it's CLEARLY THERE.

I get the thing that he's depicting the bad guy and the good guy wins, but it's still really questionable in taste to use something like this as a "heaven or hell" motif for a music video.
seigichou37 similar25th-Sep-2012 04:57 am (UTC)
It reminds me of Die (from Dir en Grey)'s outfit in their PV for their song "ASH" he too had a swastika on his arm...
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