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10:57 am - 09/09/2012

Koki's Nazi uniform causes controversy

Tanaka Koki, member of the popular Johnny's idol group, KAT-TUN, has been stirring up some controvery recently as his new PV "Black or White" was leaked on to the internet. So what's the big deal? Some netizens are upset that Koki is dressed in full, Nazi uniform. The full PV can be viewed here.

To be specific, Koki sports the notorious SS black uniform, which was used from 1932 to 1934 in Nazi Germany. The SS uniform was worn specifically by people who worked in concentration camps and closest to the Third Reich. The PV features him dancing in the Nazi garb, while switching between scenes of him being experimented on. The SS was also notorious for conducting horrendous "medical experiments" on many Jews in concentration camps.

Koki's uniform shows off several Nazi era paraphernalia, including:

The Third Reich Eagle Emblem 

The Third Reich government adopted the eagle as a national symbol (Hoheitszeichen), in common with previous German governments and several other European countries. Originally, the design was to show the eagle's head facing to its right when used as a national symbol, and to its left when used as a Nazi Party symbol, but this convention was not always followed. The eagle's claws were to grasp a wreath of oak leaves surrounding a swastika.

The Iron Cross

The Iron Cross was used as the symbol of the German Army from 1871 to March/April 1918, when it was replaced by a simpler Greek cross. In 1956, the Iron Cross resumed its German military usage, as it became the symbol of the Bundeswehr, the modern German armed forces. 

However, the Nazi swastika band cannot be seen on his arm. 

Many netizens have voiced their concerns over the PV, including:

"That PV is disgusting, not only the SS uniform but also the experiment bits...Japanese groups have been called out for this shit before, he must've known. This is a disgusting grab for attention and it will work,"

"lol i don't get why you are all reacting so badly. okay well i do, but it's been done before and it shouldn't be a huge deal anymore. vk bands have dressed up with the actual nazi-swastika attached to their costume. for years and years and years."

It is widely known that the Japanese were allied with Germany during World War 2. However, many Japanese are still uneducated on the full extent of the atrocities done by the Axis Powers during the war.

Sources: 1, 2
cherrycoloured 9th-Sep-2012 04:48 pm (UTC)
Why should we get over it? I'm Jewish, and it really bothers me when people take the Holocaust so lightly. It's not just the uniforms, it also him being experimented on that makes it so awful. If it doesn't bother you, that's fine, but please respect that it does upset others and don't tell us to get over it.
seelenlicht 9th-Sep-2012 04:53 pm (UTC)
Yes and I was born in Russia, nearly all my forefathers were killed in the war.
I know that we shouldn't forget about it, cause it was an awful happening. But I'm just tiered that people always search for a even a small sign before they all start to make a drama about this.
cherrycoloured 9th-Sep-2012 04:58 pm (UTC)
It's not a small sign though. He wore a full SS uniform and was being tortured.
seelenlicht 9th-Sep-2012 05:08 pm (UTC)
Well, then you should be annoyed by Japanese entertainment industry or their costume designers, because they seem not to care enough about stuff like this.

Yeah I understand that you feel offended but I seriously think that we should just see this as a pv and nothing more.
mikarocker 9th-Sep-2012 04:56 pm (UTC)
fulllove 9th-Sep-2012 05:22 pm (UTC)
My father is Jewish, so I understand what you feel...but I think it's really in order to depict the evil...I don't think he wanted to offend...But the choice is NOT RIGHT.

Edited at 2012-09-09 05:27 pm (UTC)
bleed_peroxide 9th-Sep-2012 06:07 pm (UTC)
But it's so sugoi desu ne~ :|

Seriously, though, I agree with you. Why the fuck are people getting their knickers in a twist over the fact that GEE WHIZ, THIS VIDEO AND COSTUME ARE PRETTY FUCKING OFFENSIVE TO JEWISH PEOPLE.
yuuki_saya 9th-Sep-2012 06:56 pm (UTC)
With all my respect, but sometimes I can't stop thinking, that after all those years it should be easier to accept those things. In my place, Poland, you can't say anything not gravely serious about Holocaust. It's tragic, we should learn from it, but the hell Jewish weren't the only one suffering. I can say that here it was the worst - Nazis, Soviets, one after another. But all nations were suffering.

And this PV doesn;t bother me at all, because it give positive message - that good side of humanity, even being destroyed, can win with evil.

People, just get over it.
eskarina77 9th-Sep-2012 07:13 pm (UTC)
I wouldn't ask people to get over history...
But as you said, this PV depicts good vs bad...and good obviously wins over bad.

and i agree with you: everyone suffered from WW and Nazis
fulllove 9th-Sep-2012 08:16 pm (UTC)
I understand what you mean, but I think it's not right to compare the suffering.

Yes, Jewish were not the only one suffering, many people suffer all around the world and some since many years,so I think it's not right to think this atrocity is worst than this...ATROCITIES are all hard for the victims.
cherrycoloured 9th-Sep-2012 09:03 pm (UTC)
Fuck you for telling me to get over it. When did I claim that only Jewish people were effected by Nazis or that only Nazis are bad? Of course the Soviet Union was just as evil, I am aware of history. As well, in another comment, I did bring up that gay people, Romani, and disabled people were targets of the Nazis as well.

I understand that was the video's message, however, using Nazi imagery for it was extremely tasteless.

I respect your right to not be offended by this. Please respect my right to be offended by this.
hisjulliet 10th-Sep-2012 06:30 am (UTC)
"People, just get over it."

Way to harness sympathy towards your fellow human beings. If actual victims of Nazi Germany read this right now, how would you feel?

There are family members of war victims here, in this thread, telling you that this pv offended them. You have no right to dictate how these people feel about this issue. Just because you don't feel offended by this doesn't mean other people can't be. You have every right to not feel offended by this, but please, do not believe your opinion is going to be shared with everybody else here.

This is exactly why history repeats itself. By people like you who believe that something will go away if you ignore it long enough. But this mindset is completely wrong. People need to continue to bring this up so history won't repeat itself. And this article is doing just that. Let people in this thread talk about why they find this offense and at least try to understand where they are coming from.
eskarina77 9th-Sep-2012 07:08 pm (UTC)
I'm neither German nor Jewish, but I immediatly got caught by the nazi uniform (I don't like it because of history...and that history touched some of my family members who are still there to talk about it);

I can understand 'younger' generation would like to forget about it as much as peolpe who want to remember (only you remember for this not to ever happen again). There's no need to seek for revenge about such an old history (because if you seek revenge, you'll only llok for another war...and I'm against it)

I understood the PV as a 'fight' between bad guy and good guy who tries to get out of his situation.

Even if this PV can shock some people, I don't think it's a scandalous one. Both good and bad sides are shown...
miyukiflax121 9th-Sep-2012 08:21 pm (UTC)
I get where you are coming from. I'm half German, none of my ancestors were Nazis though, and half Filipino, my grandad fought for the Americans. I can't speak for all Germans and I won't. I will never deny what Germany has done in the past, but I do feel that is unfair how we are still seen in the world. I was born way after the war and everytime I say I am German I get accused of being Nazi.
One time I heard a speech of a lady who survived the Holocaust and I was deeply touched and very sad about what she and her loved ones had to go through, but I didn't think I deserved to hear that Germans haven't changed one bit since the Holocaust.
Now about the PV, I think it is distastful and politically incorrect. I get that they want to show the bad side and the good side, but they could have chosen a topic less 'hot'. As they are very influencial Johnny should have said something against the concept.
zsutzy 10th-Sep-2012 10:04 am (UTC)
I have Jewish origin too, but I think Japanese people don't really care about the Europian history, and they really like these kind of uniform, see just a few vk band, so I'm already over it. If you still feel hurt just avoid these pv-s :D
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