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10:57 am - 09/09/2012

Koki's Nazi uniform causes controversy


Tanaka Koki, member of the popular Johnny's idol group, KAT-TUN, has been stirring up some controvery recently as his new PV "Black or White" was leaked on to the internet. So what's the big deal? Some netizens are upset that Koki is dressed in full, Nazi uniform. The full PV can be viewed here.

To be specific, Koki sports the notorious SS black uniform, which was used from 1932 to 1934 in Nazi Germany. The SS uniform was worn specifically by people who worked in concentration camps and closest to the Third Reich. The PV features him dancing in the Nazi garb, while switching between scenes of him being experimented on. The SS was also notorious for conducting horrendous "medical experiments" on many Jews in concentration camps.


Koki's uniform shows off several Nazi era paraphernalia, including:

The Third Reich Eagle Emblem 



The Third Reich government adopted the eagle as a national symbol (Hoheitszeichen), in common with previous German governments and several other European countries. Originally, the design was to show the eagle's head facing to its right when used as a national symbol, and to its left when used as a Nazi Party symbol, but this convention was not always followed. The eagle's claws were to grasp a wreath of oak leaves surrounding a swastika.

The Iron Cross


The Iron Cross was used as the symbol of the German Army from 1871 to March/April 1918, when it was replaced by a simpler Greek cross. In 1956, the Iron Cross resumed its German military usage, as it became the symbol of the Bundeswehr, the modern German armed forces. 

However, the Nazi swastika band cannot be seen on his arm. 

Many netizens have voiced their concerns over the PV, including:

"That PV is disgusting, not only the SS uniform but also the experiment bits...Japanese groups have been called out for this shit before, he must've known. This is a disgusting grab for attention and it will work,"

"lol i don't get why you are all reacting so badly. okay well i do, but it's been done before and it shouldn't be a huge deal anymore. vk bands have dressed up with the actual nazi-swastika attached to their costume. for years and years and years."

It is widely known that the Japanese were allied with Germany during World War 2. However, many Japanese are still uneducated on the full extent of the atrocities done by the Axis Powers during the war.





Sources: 1, 2
seelenlicht 9th-Sep-2012 04:53 pm (UTC)
Yes and I was born in Russia, nearly all my forefathers were killed in the war.
I know that we shouldn't forget about it, cause it was an awful happening. But I'm just tiered that people always search for a even a small sign before they all start to make a drama about this.
cherrycoloured 9th-Sep-2012 04:58 pm (UTC)
It's not a small sign though. He wore a full SS uniform and was being tortured.
seelenlicht 9th-Sep-2012 05:08 pm (UTC)
Well, then you should be annoyed by Japanese entertainment industry or their costume designers, because they seem not to care enough about stuff like this.

Yeah I understand that you feel offended but I seriously think that we should just see this as a pv and nothing more.
:-)
cherrycoloured 9th-Sep-2012 06:09 pm (UTC)
Who says I'm not? I get that the guy in the video isn't the person making the decision to wear the outfit. I do get annoyed that the Japanese entertainment industry is pretty happy just throwing around Nazi symbolism in general.

Again, if you want to just see it as a PV and nothing more, that's fine and I respect your right to have your own opinion, but please don't tell me how I should view this video.
boncoup 9th-Sep-2012 06:12 pm (UTC)
"Well everybody else is doing it" is a really crappy excuse to avoid personal responsibility.
hisjulliet 10th-Sep-2012 05:43 am (UTC)
"Yeah I understand that you feel offended but I seriously think that we should just see this as a pv and nothing more."

Way to contradict yourself. First you tell cherrycoloured they can be offended, and then right after this you practically say they can't be offended and to ignore the mv, like being offended is a "choice".

Do not dictate other people on what they can and can't be offended by.
seelenlicht 10th-Sep-2012 06:46 am (UTC)
Why do I contradict myself? I say that I UNDERSTAND IF they feel offended because they have an emotional bond to this very difficult topic but think that they should calm down a bit because no matter how much they get worked up NOTHING will change in the end. Cause symbols, clothes and concepts like these are established since YEARS in Japanese pvs and other stuff.
So why the hell should we start such a big drama over it if in the end of the day everything will stay the same just because Japanese ppl have an absolutely different attitude towards this?
hisjulliet 10th-Sep-2012 07:22 am (UTC)
"NOTHING will change in the end"

This is not true. It might not be the case for this particular issue, but change happens when enough people "complain" about a serious issue. Change happens when people bring up an issue and do not stop talking about it. This is what happened during the civil right movements in the U.S; this is what happened when Gays and Lesbians could finally marry in New York. Change happened because people spoke about the injustice.

I'm going to say this again: a person cannot "choose" to be offended. When a person is hurt emotionally, they are hurt emotionally. Period. It doesn't matter that them getting upset "won't change anything", it's just that they are upset by this and are expressing their emotions. It's pretty obvious nothing ~dramatic~ will happen in Japan after some article brings up this issue. People here know that.

You still fail to grasp the concept of human sympathy. Let people vent. They - are - upset. Don't you understand, there are family members here of people who were actual victims of Nazi Germany. Why are you so concerned by people getting upset about this when they have every right to be. Try to understand. Please.
seelenlicht 10th-Sep-2012 07:35 am (UTC)
Complaining where? On Arama?!

"It's pretty obvious nothing ~dramatic~ will happen in Japan after some article brings up this issue. "
Umm I don't know whether you noticed it or not but this article is not a translation of one which was published in Japan...(I think the op wrote it?)
Moreover...there WON'T be an article in Japanese tabloids about this pv, because it's absolutely unnecessary. In contrast to the people here, Japanese DON'T feel offended by such a pv. Like several people already mentioned: This clothes and this concepts did exist in the musical industry for years. This uniform is just an accessory for them, nothing more.
I highly doubt that there will be many people who will notice the nazi thing at all.

"Don't you understand, there are family members here of people who were actual victims of Nazi Germany."
Half of my family was killed in the war while fighting in Russia...So I DO understand that they might be hurt.
I just think that it's senseless to deal with this topic here. Complaints won't bring anything because...again it's just Arama. And I highly doubt that people will feel better after saying that this is disrespectful and that it offends them.
In my opinion they should just...accept that in japan this nazi association isn't a big deal at all and try to NOT watch or read articles like this. So they don't have to feel the pain.
Tanja Krueger 9th-Sep-2012 05:49 pm (UTC)
He is not wearing a full SS uniform. There are many differences if you look on it.
And at least he can escape and fight against the Bad.
So it has more the "Good vs. Bad" background.
liime_arix 9th-Sep-2012 06:07 pm (UTC)
Isn't he wearing the emblems associated with the uniform? It might not be a big deal if he didn't wear them, but they hold as much meaning as the swastika armband.
cherrycoloured 9th-Sep-2012 06:11 pm (UTC)
Exactly. There are small differences, but it's clearly meant to be an SS uniform.
yuuki_saya 9th-Sep-2012 08:33 pm (UTC)
It's clearly bad guy meant to be beaten by good guy. And the uniform is rather random.
cherrycoloured 9th-Sep-2012 08:42 pm (UTC)
There is torture like what the Nazis did, so I doubt the uniform was that random. Even if it was, I don't see how that makes it right. Using Nazis as generic bad guys is completely tasteless, as they were much more and they affected real people.
boncoup 9th-Sep-2012 06:35 pm (UTC)
MTE.
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