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9:47 am - 02/03/2013

AKB48 Kashiwagi Yuki says “Love-Ban-Law is necessary as long as we’re idols”

The newest documentary film which followed the popular idol group AKB48′s last year – “DOCUMENTARY OF AKB48 NO FLOWER WITHOUT RAIN  - What girls will see after tears?” directed by renonwed PV and Movie director Takahashi Eik hit screen on February 1st. The movie projected the “REAL” of idols of present-day, such as competition for Center position after Maeda Atsuko’ graduation, LOVE-BAN-LAW, as well as the gap between members.

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The source noted that this interview was conducted before Shukan Bunshun reported the Miichan "scandal", but ugh her reasons are killing me. I only posted this because when I mentioned this article in another post some of you were wishing it wasn't true. Welp here it is and I honestly think prayer is needed right now.

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kyrpa 3rd-Feb-2013 07:01 pm (UTC)
People really need to get off their "my culture is superior" high horse.
These idols are selling a product which just happens to containt a certaint degree of personal freedom attached to it. Probably this is one of the reasons why large part of the idols are always young girls and then graduate when they hit the age of serious relationships.

Of course the top akb girls are making so much money they probably will want to ride out the popularity as long as they can. Since majority of the idols will fade away as soon as they leave the idol domain.

I love how someone commented that Yukirin is an idiot due to her comment about this matter. Unlike the child who wrote that, Yukirin understands what is required of the genre she is a part of.
girlknees 4th-Feb-2013 12:51 pm (UTC)
what do you mean by superior culture high horse anyway?
most japanese people find otaku/akb fanculture to be weird too so... i don't really understand you're trying to say here?
nalty7 3rd-Feb-2013 07:35 pm (UTC)

It could be you in Mii-chan's place.
ohprecioustime 3rd-Feb-2013 07:36 pm (UTC)
Yukirin always seemed like one of the more calculating and ambitious members, so I am not surprised she supports it...she knows what is up and is here to make as much money from her idol career as possible

still love ha <3
yukinoo13 3rd-Feb-2013 07:42 pm (UTC)
agree :)
lanysakurai 3rd-Feb-2013 07:55 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry but there's no such thing as "LOVE-BAN-LAW".
What idols have is "DON'T-LET-ANYBODY-KNOW-LAW" cause any of them stay alone for as long as they are idols. I wish they would stop with this hypocrisy.
I understand why you can't say you're dating but don't deny you do it. -.-
saku062 3rd-Feb-2013 07:57 pm (UTC)
Not a fan of AKB but as this love ban rule concerns every idol group....

This rule is STUPID for both sides:
Idols are humans they can have a relationship too. Do we really think that they'll die single? I hope no! After all the entertainment and happiness they gave us I think they deserve to experience a happy family life with their wife/husband and kids.
This rule is also a very bad thing for "hardcore" fans. While they keep dreaming about an impossible chance to live with their idol (since it's the purpose from agencies) they don't try to find someone and waste their time. What a pity....
negroyella 3rd-Feb-2013 08:58 pm (UTC)
the LOVE BAN LAW is what it is: she signed a contract meaning regardless of whether or not she personally agrees with it morally, she agreed to abide by it. these have been around since the 70s with idols so it's nothing new. if anything, she shouldn't have gotten caught. i'm entirely sure hundreds of idols throughout the past decade or more have dated on the sly.. but made sure no one caught them. while i personally think it's a little ridiculous, through a business perspective, you totally know all the hand shake events, naughty photobooks, etc are aimed toward the wota demographic who primarily dishes out the majority of cash (remember the whole ami suzuki thing?) which then makes el dinero. if the girls are caught sleeping at a dude's place or dating, it shatters the entire "pure" image that is the very foundation of the industry.

....which i also have a sneaking suspicion graduations, etc are for. it's all completely an act: the girls agree to keep up the facade of "girl next door, purity, etc" and after a few years, they graduate or "leave for studies." (magically if you google them months later, they're in a relationship.)

so basically, the rules are part of the package. they're not forever and they're not breakable... unless you get caught. while the head shaving went a little far (although it's happened before in japan for lesser things), i definitely wouldn't condemn anyone. don't let the hype fool you: an idol isn't an abused classmate, they're actresses performing a job duty for which they're paid for. well. (you think those samantha thevasa bags come cheap?) and the whole pure act is part of the job.
beyondsaturn 3rd-Feb-2013 09:30 pm (UTC)
I couldn't have said that better. These idols go into these contracts with their management companies willingly. To say they didn't know how it would be is a lie - these agreements have been around for 40+ years if not more. Countless idols have lost their dollar power and popularity for getting involved in relationships...and remember, it's their management companies that take the initial financial risk to make them stars so they will draw up contracts that will maximize the company's financial gain and minimize the risks. Dating bans are exactly that - trying to maximize their idols' popularity and minimizing chances of failure. Only those who are megastars to begin with have been able to continue in the idol industry after marriage and kids. (I can only think of Kimura Takuya and Matsuda Seiko)
umbrellaphone 3rd-Feb-2013 09:14 pm (UTC)
Wow didn't take long for some to go 180 on her just like that.
jell_o_jello 3rd-Feb-2013 09:16 pm (UTC)
I think it's fine if one chooses to not have a boyfriend if that's what they think is better for their career.
But it's another thing to have a rule against relationship and the punishment that comes with it if you violate the rule.

As long as idol fans stop supporting their favs when they have bf/gf, idols will always feel the need to refrain from relationships. It's the fans that need to change and make the rule unnecessary. Until that day comes, you will see idols and management justify this no dating rule. Their success and career depend on it, they have no choice and they will continue to think that the rule is ok.
umbrellaphone 3rd-Feb-2013 09:35 pm (UTC)
It's the fans that need to change and make the rule unnecessary.

Yup. As long as idols stay as idols, their hands are pretty much tied with a contract binding them to the agency, and they won't have much of a voice, esp. when AKB is that dependent on fans. Reputation of work ethics and all, and an agency as powerful as Aki-P can potentially blacklist any of them or prevent them from getting opportunities. (not that it happened yet, but..)
fukkthedumbshyt Nope...cannot...3rd-Feb-2013 11:41 pm (UTC)
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uledy Re: Nope...cannot...3rd-Feb-2013 11:44 pm (UTC)
Mr. West has the best reactions to EVERYTHING.
gambareletsgo 3rd-Feb-2013 11:46 pm (UTC)
Yeah I never liked you.
Basic bitch.

Edited at 2013-02-03 11:46 pm (UTC)
aksara05 4th-Feb-2013 12:15 am (UTC)
No dating rule is so stupid. I always wonder about it since the 90s. Maybe that is why the birth rate in Japan is so low.

And this girl who agree with rule is more stupid than the stupid rule. Just saying.

BTW, Japanese fans really need to stop thinking that they owned their artist. Artist, Idol or not have their own lives. It is their freedom to date anybody. This remind me Hirano Aya's case. Just because she said he has a boyfriend on TV people started to hate her giving her hate messages "die die die". And she just only seiryu.

I guess lonely people like Otaku, JE fangirls, 48 fanboys really are scary people.
dramaticsurgeon 4th-Feb-2013 12:50 am (UTC)
It's not even a matter of "you don't understand Japanese culture" anymore, since even many of Japan's netizens have gone on record saying "Lolwut? No." But the idol fanbase in general has been built on obsession (and a fantasy of possession) to a certain extent, and I don't think there's any coming back from that without financial repercussion--and that's what terrifies the agency.

All cultural connotation aside, what's really the point of such a no-love rule other than making the group super popular with an unbalanced portion of the population and raking in money from said population? No really, all flowery talk of "maintaining teh purity of teh idol image!!11!" aside...what's the point?

This is the same portion of the population that makes a "blacklist" and a "whitelist" of female seiyuu at the end of the year, where they stalk these women to see if they're spending Christmas Eve alone (whitelisted) or with a boyfriend (blacklisted). That has nothing to do with cultural attitudes--these otaku want to make sure the women who voice their beloved, virginal 2D characters are also abstaining from relationships. Yet rather than call these fans on their crap, the seiyuus' agencies go so far as to create alibis, hoping it will fool the otaku while soothing their ruffled feathers over the fact THEIR favorite character's voiceover star is dating another man.

I'm fairly certain many of AKB's fans don't care if they're in a relationship. What fascinates me is how far idol agencies are willing to go to placate the ones who do. If they weren't worried about losing money, they would have dropped the ban ages ago...and the money's really all it's about. Not culture clashes, not head-shaving, not public humiliation, not filling girls' heads with fantasies of stardom while controlling all the strings--it's the money.
___varying 4th-Feb-2013 01:33 am (UTC)
+1000. The hair-shaving vid was probably an attempt on the part of the agency/Miichan herself to appease the wotas as well - they obviously didn't consider its significance, or how everyone else would see it. They're feeding a culture that's unhealthy.

And to the seiyuu thing: what?? I can't even. O.O
letihughes 4th-Feb-2013 01:15 am (UTC)
I can't!
this is so ridiculous!!!!!
oh girl.... I hope you fall in love deeeply so you can shave your hair too =/
yukinoo13 4th-Feb-2013 04:40 am (UTC)
she'll fall in love deeply when graduated from AKB
so she won't shave her hair LOL
Sorry to make you disappointed ^0^
abuchan 4th-Feb-2013 01:50 am (UTC)
wow sounds like a thing that robot would say...
the unity reason makes sense though...
hope idols can find their own happiness :D
taylorniw 4th-Feb-2013 02:48 am (UTC)
She is a robot. Like someone said on the first page, she's got the stereotypical idol persona down to a T.
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